The foregoing Hospital Birth Certificate was issued by The Cyril and Julia C. Johnson Memorial Hospital in the year 1933. Is it a real hospital? There is not presently a hospital operating anywhere in the United States by that name.
The Cyril and Julia C. Johnson Memorial Hospital first opened its doors in 1912. The hospital was located on East Street in the borough of Stafford Springs, Connecticut. The borough should not be confused with the town of Stafford because back then the two had not yet consolidated (occurred in 1992) to become just the town of Stafford. A picture of the hospital from what I believe may be circa the creation of the hospital is attached directly below:
At some point, possibly (I don’t know) in the 1980s, and due perhaps (I don’t know) to a late 1970s civil case styled The Cyril and Julia C. Johnson Memorial Hospital vs National Labor Relations Board, the hospital changed names and became known as the Johnson Memorial Hospital aka Johnson Memorial Medical Center. Moreover, in 1975 the hospital relocated to a new building at a new location, i.e., Route 190 in the town of Stafford Springs (although often still listed as Stafford Springs even though Stafford Springs became part of the town of Stafford in 1992 and is now more of a hamlet/section/neighborhood within the town of Stafford).
All of the above sort of reminds me of the confusion that once (and often still does) surrounded the name and location of Barack Hussein Obama II’s birth hospital, i.e., Coast Province General Hospital (CPGH), Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya. Was the hospital located in Kenya or Zanzibar and was Coast Province a province yet and if not how could the hospital be named for a province that did not yet exist? Additionally, what of the seemingly strange and often elusive entity known as the Protectorate of Kenya? Or was it the Colony of Kenya? What was the difference?
I hope little baby Savilla Arlene Turgeon did not grow up to one day find herself confronted by skeptics who indicated that her birth certificate was a forgery on grounds that the named hospital did not exist and that even if it did exist it was located in an place that did not exist and even if it exists now there appears to be two different names in simultaneous use for the same hospital and also two different names in simultaneous use for the current location of the hospital and some segment of the skeptics will continue to indicate a forgery depending of which name of the hospital and its geographical location that they choose to subscribe to.
Skeptics of Barack Obama’s CPGH Kenyan birth certificate often indicate that the inked footprint affixed to the document is too large to be that of a newborn baby.
How do they know that? Why do they not cite an official source? Furthermore, and even if they did cite an official source, who is to say that all babies are born with feet measuring between this number (?) of inches and this number (?) of inches?
It appears that babies have been born (and survived) not weighing even a single pound. Would their feet measurements fall within the norm? Moreover, it appears that babies have been born (and survived) weighing nearly 30 (nearly thirty) pounds. Would their feet measurements fall within the norm? Lastly, are all average sized newborn babies born with average sized feet; and would an ‘average size’ baby in China, the Philippines, Kenya, Uganda, the Congo, Holland and the USA be determined by the same unit of ‘average’ and how about their feet size?
For the record, I don’t believe that the size of Barack Obama’s baby footprint, which is affixed to his CPGH Kenyan birth certificate, falls anywhere outside of what is normal or average for a newborn baby.
I also would like to know how anyone, aside from my myself and a limited number of other individuals (e.g., Bruce Steadman and attorney Mario Apuzzo) who have had the opportunity and time to physically examine the document, would even know the real size of the inked footprint affixed to Barack Obama’s CPGH Kenyan birth certificate. You can’t logically and reasonably anticipate or expect to get an accurate measurement by measuring an online PDF or JPEG image.
Below please find the first-ever published official measurement of Barack Hussein Obama II’s inked footprint (as a newborn):
Barack Obama’s right inked footprint (as a newborn) is approximately 2-15/16 inches in length.
Savilla Arlene Turgeon’s left inked footprint (as a newborn) is approximately 2-15/16 inches in length, the same as Obama’s right inked footprint.
Savilla Arlene Turgeon’s right inked footprint (as a newborn) is approximately 3-3/16 inches in length, 1/4 inch longer than Obama’s right inked footprint.
Note: How can Savilla Arlene Turgeon’s right foot be approximately 1/4 inch long than her left foot? Other than that a person’s feet are not always the same exact size my assessment would be either of the following:
1. Her right inked footprint is ‘smudged’ to a higher degree than her left inked footprint is which gives the appearance of a larger inked area of footprint.
2. Her left inked footprint was not adequately or wholly affixed to the document. We see evidence of this in that, unlike her right inked footprint, the left is missing a large portion of its toes. It is also possible that her full left heel may not have wholly affixed to the document, sort of like if you inked your pointer finger (even if it was heavily inked) but did not fully affix it to your document you’d only get a print of the center of your pointer finger.
Barack’s footprint and Savilla’s footprints all appear to be heavily inked which may (possibly) cause distortion in appearance of length.
Conclusion: Barack’s inked footprint is not longer than either of Savilla’s inked footprints. Moreover, Savilla’s right inked footprint appears to be approximately 1/4 inch longer than Barack’s right inked footprint.
Below please find additional compelling evidence taken from Savilla Arlene Turgeon’s Hospital Birth Certificate issued by The Cyril and Julia C. Johnson Memorial Hospital in Stafford Springs, Connecticut in the year 1933:
1. Dr Conspiracy aka Kevin Wayne Davidson, has indicated the following regarding Obama’s CPGH Kenyan birth certificate: “The certificate bears the seal of the hospital. A seal signifies a certified copy. Generally hospitals don’t issue certified copies, jurisdictions do. The seal should be that of the government of Kenya (or the district), not the hospital.”
Savilla Arlene Turgeon’s hospital birth certificate bears the same sort of raised embossed seal of the hospital. Is Savilla’s birth certificate not authentic because it bears a raised embossed of the hospital rather than the seal of the government of Connecticut?
2. Attorney Loren Collins of Georgia has indicated the following regarding Obama’s CPGH Kenyan birth certificate: “There are some aspects of the document I find odd and curious (e.g., the lack of a birthday for Barack Sr.; the complete lack of a residence line for the father; ), but nothing that I can firmly state is hard evidence that it’s a fake. But one feature stands out to me as the strongest evidence of fakery: the seal. Not only is it not a government seal for either Kenya or Mombasa, but it’s terribly generic. It just says “SEAL” in the center, as though it was a bottom-level embossed sealmaker, bought from an office supplies dealer for about $25.”
Here is the seal on Savilla’s Connecticut hospital birth certificate adjacent Barack’s Kenyan hospital birth certificate:
I don’t see any significant difference at all between the seals attached above. In the outer ring they both list the name of the hospital, nothing more. In the inner ring they both list the hospital’s geographical location. Barack’s lists ‘MOMBASA KENYA’. Savilla’s lists ‘STAFFORD SPRINGS CONN.’
The only difference is that the center of Barack’s seal says ‘SEAL’ while the center of Savilla’s seal says ‘INCORPORATED 1912’ and also a ‘.’ (i.e., a period mark) in the very middle of the seal.
Furthermore, and in terms of “generic”, I don’t see a significant or atypical difference between the word SEAL and the word-year-period INCORPORATED 1912 .
3. Dr Conspiracy aka Kevin Wayne Davidson, has indicated the following regarding Obama’s CPGH Kenyan birth certificate: “I also find very suspicious that the signature has the pre-printed title “Supervisor of Obstetrics” when there are all sorts of conditions with (sic) someone else might sign the form. In pretty much any real form, the title of the signer is a blank to fill in. For example, an example from South Australia has a blank to fill in.”
Savilla Arlene Turgeon’s hospital birth certificate specifically requests the signature of the “Superintendent” rather than being left blank to be filled in with the title of the signer as Dr Conspiracy indicated that it should be. Is Savilla’s birth certificate not authentic because it requests the signature of the Superintendent rather than being left blank for the title be entered by the signer?
4. Dr Conspiracy aka Kevin Wayne Davidson, has indicated the following regarding Obama’s CPGH Kenyan birth certificate: “On the one hand it purports to be issued by the hospital, signed by a hospital-titled person, and lacks legal attributes such as the parent’s signature and adds a baby footprint. On the other hand it purports to be a legal document, having a certificate number, a seal, and to have been “issued” this year, attributes of a “certified copy.” But a certified copy of a souvenir makes no sense, and the document presented seems neither fish nor fowl.”
Its seems that Dr Conspiracy is indicating that a hospital birth certificate would not contain all of the above referenced attributes.
Savilla Arlene Turgeon’s hospital birth certificate contains each of the above referenced attributes (issued by hospital, signed by hospital-titled person, lacks parent’s signatures, adds baby footprint, has a seal, has been issued in 1933) and states, “This Certifies that Savilla Arlene Turgeon was born in The Cyril and Julia C. Johnson Memorial Hospital on the 6th day of August A.D. 1933. In Witness Whereof the said Hospital has caused this Certificate to be signed by its duly authorized officer and its Corporate Seal to be hereunto affixed.”
Savilla’s hospital birth certificate even contains a certificate number (9364) which Dr Conspiracy indicates should not exist on such a document:
5. I note here for the record that Savilla Arlene Turgeon’s hospital birth certificate and Barack Hussein Obama II’s hospital birth certificate both contain printing identification data/numbers. I have combined crops of each into a single image below:
In closing I want to point out, regretfully, that while I was able to verify the identity of our friend Savilla Arlene Turgeon I also ascertained that she passed away on June 1st, 1999.
Savilla’s obituary was published in the June 3rd, 1999 edition of the Hartford Courant newspaper:
“Savilla (Turgeon) Wright, 65, of Longview Drive, Enfield, died Tuesday, (June 1, 1999) at home. Born in Stafford, she was a resident of the Hazardville section of Enfield all her life. She was employed by Hamilton Standard and Pratt & Whitney as an administrative assistant, a division of U.T.C. for many years before her retirement. Savilla was a member of the Hazardville United Methodist Church, and was a graduate of Enfield High School. She leaves her mother, Arlene (Pierson) Turgeon Van Kleeck of Enfield; a sister, Pauline and her husband Raleigh Brown, Jr. of Enfield; a nephew and his wife, David A. and Deborah Brown of Glastonbury; a niece and her husband, Cynthia and Michael Gogulski of Westfield; a great-niece, Allison Brown; and a great-nephew, Andrew Gogulski. The funeral will be Friday at 11:30 a.m. at the Leete-Stevens Enfield Chapels, 61 South Road, followed by burial in West Cemetery, Somers. The family will receive friends at the Leete-Stevens Enfield Chapels on Friday from 10:30-11:30 a.m. Donations in Savilla’s name may be made to the Hazardville United Methodist Church, 330 Hazard”
I’ve found that when I write reports which heavily reference authentic and tangible birth/identity documents I’m often subsequently contacted, sometimes privately and sometimes via a comment here on the blog, by the person(s) listed on the documents or by family or friends of those listed on the documents.
If family members of Savilla happen to stumble upon this particular WOBIK blog report and would like to have Savilla’s tangible hospital birth certificate I will gladly and enthusiastically mail it to them.
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@Lucas,
OUTSTANDING RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION!
You covered a lot of ground in the lengthy and detailed post. Wonderful!
I attempted on the below-linked post over on the Inspector Smith Forum to simply generate interest and then lead readers back here to view and carefully consider the implications of your complete article.
http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/InspectorSmith/showthread.php/4293-Lucas-Daniel-Smith-refutes-six-objections-concerning-the-Obama-CPGH-BC
“Skeptics of Barack Obama’s CPGH Kenyan birth certificate often indicate that the inked footprint affixed to the document is too large to be that of a newborn baby.”
Yeah, the skepticism has nothing to do with the fact that you have no proof you have ever been to Kenya.
“At some point, possibly (I don’t know) in the 1980s, and due perhaps (I don’t know) to a late 1970s civil case styled The Cyril and Julia C. Johnson Memorial Hospital vs National Labor Relations Board, the hospital changed names and became known as the Johnson Memorial Hospital aka Johnson Memorial Medical Center. Moreover, in 1975 the hospital relocated to a new building at a new location, i.e., Route 190 in the town of Stafford (although often still listed as Stafford Springs even though Stafford Springs became part of the town of Stafford in 1992 and is now more of a hamlet/section/neighborhood within the town of Stafford)”
Dude, seriously?
You are funny.
bob wrote:
I no longer have any doubt that the Obama Kenyan birth certificate is authentic and that Lucas did get it while on a trip to Africa in 2009.
However, just for the sake of argument, let’s say that Lucas never actually went to Kenya but just bought the document from someone else.
The Kenyan BC is still obviously authentic.
IMO, Lucas has successfully defended the certificate’s authenticity against all challengers, including the eminent Dr. Corsi and the far less than eminent, Dr. Conspiracy!
So why is Obama still in office?
SNM
@ Bruce:
Thank you Bruce!
again, your truths are not necessary for Obama to have been born in Kenya. Your transitive reasoning is:
my footprint from a Kenyan hospital is similar to this footprint from an American hospital
and
the American certificate is authentic
then
my certificate is authentic
because
it has a footprint.
clapclapclap
but there is a difference however.
your document doesn’t say where he was born.
Courage Lucas ! Off to search for another birth certificate, with a name, a footprint, a signature, a border, no place of birth …….. and a partridge in a pear tree
History in Cedar Rapids !
me and O in Santo Domingo
Greatkim wrote:
— “History made in Cedar Rapids. Birther leader (hmmmm!) and President (?????) share ‘reconciliation’ bike tour.”
LOL. The hits just keep coming!
Mik – You really are a creative SOB!
@ Greatkim:
@ Bruce:
lol!!!!!!
mmmhhh. this one’s not as good as the bike reconciliation one.
fuzzy text and “secret document” look diverts attention from technical flaws
CAPTION
Hitlary Clinton: “Oh my! The Birthers were right. I could of been Empress instead of the Fraud’s SuckAss of State.”
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on alleged birth certificates, like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof. (Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya. And the “birth certificate” misspelled some of the names of the officials too.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …
Is that all? NO there is more.
Birthers allege that the Kenyan government has hidden all documents that prove that Obama’s mother went to Kenya. Well, that is possible, but not likely—such things tend to leak. But what about the US government? Did it hide its records too?
That is because, obviously, if a child were born in Kenya she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. We simply do not allow a child to be carried into the USA without some form of official document. (Except some are smuggled across the Mexican and Canadian borders, but Kenya does not have a land border with the USA.) And a US travel document, such as having Obama added to his mother’s US passport would have required an application for that document in the US consulate in Nairobi Kenya.
That application would have been filed in multiple files, and there would have been communication about it with Washington, so it would be difficult to be lost or scrapped. And the Bush Administration was in charge of the US State Department for eight years until early 2009, so they could have found it, and if they did they would surely have shown it, and they didn’t.
So, for the “born in Kenya” story to be true, both Kenya and the Bush Administration must be part of a plot. Hawaii too, of course, and that would include the former Republican governor of Hawaii. And the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers that were placed by the DOH in the Hawaii newspapers (and only the DOH could put notices into the Health Bureau Statistics section of the papers) in 1961 would have to be fraudulent too.
And, Kenya is about ten thousand miles from Hawaii, and the idea that Obama’s parents had that kind of money (Obama’s American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother was just a low-level employee in a bank at the time) or would spend it on a trip while Obama’s mother was late in pregnancy (which was very rare in those days) and take the risk of stillbirth and Yellow Fever (which was endemic in Kenya, and a Yellow Fever shot is bad during pregnancy) is nutty in the extreme.
The bottom line: There is no proof that Obama’s mother went to Kenya and it is highly unlikely that she did. The Kenyan government and Obama’s relatives both say that he was not born there. If he were born in Kenya there would have to be US government documents saying that his family applied for a passport or a visa, and there isn’t any. There is no INS check in for Obama or his mother (which would normally have taken place in New York, since there were no direct flights, and those files are not missing), and the birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties and the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers all show that he was born in Hawaii.
Funny how you NEVER have addressed the FACT that the weight and length of your purported “baby Obama” on your FAKE Kenyan birth certificate is so far off the wt/lt charts that it indicates the child would be a Dwarf. Yeah, President Obama really looks like a dwarf. Mebbe you should look for records of leg transplants. LOL.
Also hospitals do not issue anything but vanity birth certificates – have you found any from non-US hospitals? There is NO REASON to keep a copy of such in a medical record.
PLUS, even US hospitals don’t keep records beyond the required limit (as Mikki Booth and several others have discovered). An impoverished African hospital most certainly wouldn’t have maintained records for close to half a century.
We continue to laugh at you Lucas. A pitiful lying criminal.
@ Mary:
>>> AND ” WE THE PEOPLE ” WHO ARE AWAKE AND AWARE OF THE FACTS AGAINST YOUR VILLAGE IDIOT ARE LAUGHING AT AND PITYING YOU AND ALL OTHERS WHO ARE DUPED , FOOLED, TRICKED BY THE TREASONOUS , FRAUDULENT , INELIGIBLE , INEPT , INCOMPETENT , LYING COMMUNIST MUSLIM LOVER . ARE YOU SO IGNORANT AND STUPID THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW OF THE MANY NATIONWIDE EFFORTS TO EXPOSE obummer AND REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE ??? THERE IS LITERALLY A MOUNTAIN OF PROOF THAT obozo HAS NO CLAIM AT ALL TO CITIZENSHIP IN AMERICA .
WE HAVE HAD ACCESS TO THIS INFO BEGINNING IN 2008 BEFORE THE FRAUDULENT ELECTION , AND YOU ARE VERY LATE COMING IN WITH YOUR ” LAME CLAIM ” , CONJECTURE , SPECULATION AND FALSE IMAGINATION .
THERE ARE MORE THAN A DOZEN OTHER PEOPLE WORKING TO INDICT THE MISERABLE , STINKING DESTROYER OF OUR ECONOMY AND THE FORMER
” AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE ” .