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**bsteadman** · 04-29-2013, 03:36 PM

Free Republic is running a thread titled, 'Video: National Public Radio's Betsy Liley Openly Admitted Obama Birther Cover Up', which was started 4/28/2013 by 'Seizethecarp'

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**bsteadman** · 04-29-2013, 03:43 PM

Comments in the above referenced Free Republic thread:

To: dhs12345

I’ve already documented document fabrication by the HDOH itself (falsification of the 1960-64 birth index, fabrication of Virginia Sunahara’s long-form death certificate, Johanna Ah Nee’s long-form birth certificate, and Obama’s long-form BC), as well as the switching out of at least 4 August 1961 BC#’s that could not have been on those BC’s in 1961. I could say a bunch more but I’ll let you absorb that for the time being.

And I’ll C&P from 2 posts I posted this morning in a different thread, to let you have some idea of the lawlessness within the ENTIRE SYSTEM. It is not only naive to believe that the system is working like it’s supposed to, at this point it is SUICIDAL to believe that. Sorry for the length of this but here’s what I said this morning:

I think we are in a worse situation than you realize. We will NOT necessarily have the people within the system beating down the doors of Congress to do what is right. I say that because I have done a lot of research on Obama’s eligibility and what I have found and can document is that the system itself aided and abetted the crimes of Obama by doing their own crimes as well.

Larry Sellin overheard one of the R Presidential primary candidates say that nobody would touch the eligibility issue because they know it goes WAY deeper than anybody is willing to delve. IOW, they know there is deep, deep treason and they want to pretend that it doesn’t exist, for fear of what would happen if the truth came out.

The fact is that people within the FBI (and perhaps CIA) HAVE gone to ten members of Congress as well as to Glenn Beck with information about this Saudi guy (and Hardraade pointed out that DHS is claiming Beck’s info is that the guy is Hamza, although Beck hasn’t publicly stated that yet). Beck says these people have told him they could be sentenced to 20 years in prison for doing so.

So far the Congress members have nicely asked Napolitano to meet with them and discuss this - just like they have nicely asked Holder and others to provide documents related to Fast and Furious, and have nicely asked the State Dept to provide documents related to Benghazi. All they have ever gotten from any of those entities is the middle finger salute, and it appears that’s all they’re going to get this time as well.

Will Congress be willing to open up this can of worms, or will they leave out to dry those people who risked 20 years in prison, just like Obama left our guys in Benghazi out to dry? Given what I’ve seen on the eligibility issue, I have no confidence that Congress would do the right thing even if they knew there was big-time treason - because the largeness of the treason was the very reason to NOT dig into the eligibility issue.

What caused me to first sound the alarms on Obama’s eligibility and to go public with my research was the realization that we are really and truly lawless. The system itself has betrayed us in every way imagineable, and until we knock some sense into those systems, we are defenseless. ESPECIALLY if the people sworn to protect us know that our enemies are routing us. They are like the hireling who abandons the sheep when the wolf comes.

We are in much, much more serious times than anybody except those who have seriously dug into the eligibility issue realize. The number of crimes committed BY THE GOVERNMENT in allowing the 2008 coup to occur would be unbelievable to most people and is only believed by those of us who have researched it because we have witnessed it first-hand and can prove that it happened. What we can’t find is anybody within the system who says that it even matters if it did happen.

And the Fast and Furious and Benghazi issues only confirm that Congress will go limp on confronting treason by this regime, even when they know American lives have been lost because of it.

These are very, very serious times, and I don’t know how to help the general public realize exactly how serious this all is.
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I will give one example, also, to help you understand what we’re dealing with: the FBI’s response to Obama’s ineligibility. I went to the local FBI to report the signs of forgery on Obama’s BC. The guy told me THREE SEPARATE TIMES that they don’t investigate document fraud. So I went online to report it and in conclusion it told me that it would send it to the FBI for them to investigate.

When I warned the KS Democratic Party chair, Joan Wagnon, on my blog that I have in my hand the proof that she was informed about HI state registrar Alvin Onaka indirectly confirming that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid, somebody tried to post a comment saying that they had helped to create the forgery and I was wasting my time because Obama has immunity and so do they. The poster said that the FBI knows they did the forgery and will cover the forger’s behinds.

I tried to find out who posted that. They had used gates to hide where they posted from, and when my hacker helper got close to finding out the truth he hit a tripwire that had been set up to fry the computer of the person who ventured too close. My guy ended up dropping the pursuit because he was afraid for his life, and this is a guy who had experience delving into some very serious stuff at an international level. His computer was fried so badly that the last I knew he was not able to get it to work again.

That’s a bit excessive for somebody who was “just joking” - especially since the “jokers” have publicly admitted to forging a Kenyan BC and giving it to Orly Taitz in order to get it submitted in a legal case.

But I already knew what this poster said was true, because I had observed the actions of the FBI and seen their lies to pretend that they had no responsibility. When I submitted an affidavit to the Lincoln Police Department detailing and proving the crimes of perjury, subornation of perjury, and election fraud in the 2012 election, the cop told me the FBI had lied to me, because they do investigate document fraud. I said I already knew that because the online report was being sent to the FBI to investigate.

Incidentally, the cop I spoke to was told that he not only could not investigate the crimes that I reported and documented, but he could not forward it to the state AG either. He was supposed to just let the case die out without me even knowing that the system itself was willing to ignore everything I had just documented for them. When I reported it to my state AG (who had lied to me in saying that citizens couldn’t report to them...) they sent it to the SOS as if the SOS is a law enforcement body.

That’s the kind of response I have gotten from EVERYBODY within the system. The ONLY just people I have found within the system are Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse - because they have seen and analyzed the FACTS just like I have. Everybody else poo-poohed the whole thing and wouldn’t even LOOK at the facts.

15 posted on Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:24:07 PM by butterdezillion (,)

To: null and void; LucyT; circumbendibus; Flotsam_Jetsome; Red Steel; WildHighlander; Fantasywriter; ...

ping to undercover tape of NPR Senior Director of Institutional Giving, Betsy Liley, admitting that there are questions about Barry’s NBC status. She appears to be explaining to a foreigner, a man with Arab or Indian accent (an international giver?), the meaning of NBC and why there are questions about Barry.

Transcript begin at 1:35:

Liley: Were’re NOT covering the Birthers! We are not covering them.

Foreigner: What is the birthers? What is, what is...?

Liley: “There’s a whole movement in the conservative group about questioning something that Obama has said is a FACT: “I was born in Hawaii when it was a United States state.” And the group that questions this...some of whom you’ve mentioned are comentators...

Foreigner: They are Republican peoples?

Liley: I don’t know any who are Democrats. But they are primarily conservative commentators and the people who follow them question whether Obama is...to run for president you have to be born in the U.S. For many other offices you don’t have to, but that office you do have to be born in the U.S. And there still is a question about whether he is, and that is a FACT! And I think the challenge in our society is we are questioning FACTS, it’s not opinions that we are debating. It’s what are the FACTS?

19 posted on Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:29:47 PM by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)

**bsteadman** · 04-29-2013, 03:55 PM

Additional comments in the above referenced Free Republic thread:

To: dhs12345

The two people who might have done it both had “peculiar events” the day of Arpaio’s press conference where he announced a criminal investigation of forgery and fraud:

1. Breitbart keeled over dead (and the stories about his health changed over time to accommodate the appearance of a heart attack).

2. Rush Limbaugh received a package referring to 2 famous assassinations. His team treated it as a bomb threat and it shook him up a bit.

We know that the media personalities were threatened if they or any of their guests reported on Obama’s eligibility problem, and at least one person fled the country in fear for her and her child’s life. That happened in October of 2008 and at least one other time between the election and March of 2009. Glenn Beck appeased the threats on the eligibility issue but when he reported on Obama and Soros’ connections to Islamists and communists and how they were taking over the entire government, the threats continued and he eventually left Fox because Fox would not provide bodyguards for his secretary who was facing threats every day.

We also know that the guy who objected to Obama’s name on the KS ballot in 2012 withdrew his objection after the story went national, because he and his family were receiving so many threats.

The mob is in control. One of the witnesses at the CNN meeting where the personalities’ careers, lives, and families’ lives were threatened if they reported on Obama’s eligibility problem said that the people there said they would have thought it was terrible and censorship if it had been Bush who made the threats but because it was Obama and he’s such a good guy they had no problem with it.

The conservatives, though, would not have gone along with all this without the threats. Once the story had to break out the tactic was to ridicule anybody who took the issue seriously, and then nobody would report on it because they didn’t want to be mocked and ostracized. They all wanted to be homecoming king and queen.

22 posted on Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:32:59 PM by butterdezillion (,)

To: Mortrey

Yes. What you said.

What I’ve found is that when you really dig into the FACTS, the trolls have to leave. Not one pro-Obama person who thinks “birthers” are crazy has been willing to even address the HDOH’s falsification of the 1960-64 birth index, for instance. I’ve proven that they did it. Norman and Nathan Asing are listed on there even though the BC’s with those names are non-valid because the guys have been adopted and are now Norman and Nathan Roloos. I’ve shown their traffic court records showing those names. I’ve gotten a certified driver’s abstract for Norman Roloos by giving the birthdate of Aug 4, 1961 (the date that Norman Asing’s son was born, according to newspaper announcements). It is a proven fact that the 1960-64 birth index was altered to include selected names from non-valid records.

Nobody will refute this because they can’t. So they ignore it and hope that nobody notices that the HDOH has ALREADY been caught in a criminal act - vital records falsification with the intent to deceive, which, IIRC, is basically the equivalent of perjury by an official in a government agency.

They want us to argue about other stuff so the factual, documented stuff never gets out to the public or to people who could do something about it. We need to get the facts to people. On my blog I put the documentation where anybody can see it, so there is no question about whether this is fact. People need to see that stuff.

On a single line of Virginia Sunahara’s death certificate there are FOUR blatant signs of forgery: a BC# that could not have been on the record in 1961, mismatched and misaligned fonts on the “T.H. FILE NO”, Territory of Hawaii abbreviation (T.H.) on a STATE of Hawaii death certificate, and the federal government’s code for a Hawaii BIRTH on a death certificate. There is not one piece of information on that entire line that is actually what would have been on a 1961 Hawaii death certificate. And putting in all those blatant signs of forgery took extra work for the person at the HDOh who was forced to forge this. IOW, they worked extra-hard to make sure that people could KNOW this was a forgery. - (bold emphasis added)

That’s stuff people can see with their own eyes. They need to not only see it but process what it means. Those are critical FACTS, and the people harping on how stupid the “birthers” are will not refute those facts because they can’t. So they ignore them.

We can’t let this stuff be ignored. The facts need to be known.

47 posted on Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:15:49 PM by butterdezillion (,)

To: dhs12345

If the members of Congress come out with the proof that Michelle Obama visited who she knew to be Hamza, the son of Bin Laden - for whom Obama and his thug regime swiftly took away the classification of “known terrorist” and deported in order to prevent justice and protection of the US from being done - I would think the country might be a little less willing to giggle at the fact that the Hawaii state registrar effectively confirmed that Obama has no legally valid birth certificate.

What the system did to hide the problems with Alhamdi (who is really Osama Bin Laden’s son Hamza, according to at least one qualified analyst using facial recognition and other techniques) is piddles compared to what they’ve already done for the past 5 years, to ensure that a foreign enemy combatant got into and remained in our White House.

Fast and Furious showed us this regime arms our most potent enemies and considers innocent American lives to be mere “collateral damage” for their political agenda. Benghazi showed us this regime leaves our people deliberately unprotected and then lies about it all. And the Hamza cover-up shows us that this regime is in bed with the terrorists. Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, but three times is deliberate. Obama INTENDS to bring down America and was put into the White House by our enemies for that express purpose.

There’s way, way more evidence I could give for that, but those 3 events all by themselves tell us what we need to know about where Obama’s allegiance lies. And the fact that he is not eligible to be President and had the entire system cover for him tells us how badly the enemy has infiltrated and/or threatened ALL our government.

The eligibility issue has always been about as “funny” as a heart attack. Now that we’ve experienced the death and destruction that Obama’s allies perpetrated in Boston, maybe people will finally realize that.

65 posted on Monday, April 29, 2013 8:38:41 AM by butterdezillion (,)

To: Seizethecarp; null and void; LucyT; circumbendibus; Flotsam_Jetsome; Red Steel; WildHighlander; ...

What the MSM has done to the issues of Obama's eligibility is create a vast miasma of emotional fog around a series of very simple propositions, and made complete fools of the Republican Establishment.

For example, what is The Cold Case Posse really saying? Well, for one thing they are NOT saying much at all about President Obama.

They are saying, "We have a set of documents here
and have hard physical evidence that they are forgeries.
Take a look."

Although it's not hard to surmise who benefited from the creation of the forgeries, The Cold Case Posse actually hase less hard physical evidence of WHO created them. Day after day on NPR there are stories of brave environmentalists trying to get "their story told," perhaps about how nasty nuclear powerplant constructors are threatening the lower valley spotted newt or somesuch. If they were fair, they would simply tell the story of The cold Case Posse and Sheriff Arpaio trying to get their story told. Although IMO, NPR caters to the Left, conclusions are still the audience's business. NPR Is also revealing that their audience might act in outrage upon hearing the news ...again.

It is telling that the Director of International Giving is revealing the deliberate avoidance of the story.* NPR fears ridicule and outraged over-reaction too, especially from the wealthy Left Wing donors, the Foundations, The Big NGO's, and the Government Agencies that are the core of its financial support, and who also are among Team Obama's most fervent money backers.

* She of course is in excellent company, including Rush Limbaugh and the courts. The words "The Cold Case Posse" have never been heard on the EIB network, and even the SCOTUS has avoided the eligibility issues challenging them. This is the best perpetrated hoax in history. What makes it so is that the media and those in authority are in on it.

67 posted on Monday, April 29, 2013 9:24:31 AM by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)