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The following are comments in the Free Republic thread titled, "Georgia Freepers, I Need Urgent Help!, which was started 1/22/2012 by 'butterdezillion'
I need to get in contact with a Georgia attorney who supports the challenges to Obama's eligibility based on his birth certificate forgeries. This is desperately urgent!
Can somebody please help me?
COMMENT #12 (butterdezillion)
"The only attorney who is arguing the birth certificate issue is Orly Taitz. The other 2 challenges are based sheerly on the NBC issue. As seizethecarp has been saying for quite a while, the NBC argument could fall apart if Obama argues that BHO’s marriage to Ann is null because he was already married to Kezia and the US doesn’t allow bigamy. If Obama argued that - and actually if that is true - then if what seizethecarp is saying about Britain’s laws is correct, Obama would not have been born a British subject or citizen or whatever it is because Britain does not confer citizenship on illegitimate children born on foreign soil to British fathers.
And a recent Facebook ad suggests that this may well be the route that Obama’s people are going to take. A head-fake.
I’ve always said that we should not put all our eggs in either the birthplace or the NBC basket. As it stands right now, for better or for worse, Orly is the only person who is willing to take on Obama’s forgery and perjury and WHY he forged those BC’s. Her plate is very, very full and she’s had difficulty getting all the technical legal points taken care of - which is understandable given all that she’s been doing.
I have something that Judge Malihi DEFINITELY needs to see. But I need to make sure it is acceptable to the court, and that means I need a GA attorney who can be trusted to do this right. I’ve already tried contacting Van Irion and Hatfield; they are not interested. Their eggs are all in the NBC basket. More power to them and I hope they win. But I fear that Obama’s people have done a massive head-fake on them and I don’t want to risk that. (bold emphasis added) .................Nellie"
COMMENT #36 (Seizethecarp):
"I believe that only Van Irion is exclusively pursuing the Minor v Happersett NBC issue.
Hatfield filed a demand to Obama for production of a long list of documents including a certified HI BC, SS records and academic records and passport applications:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogs...-attorney.html
While not accusing Obama of fraud, like Orly, Hatfield is, IMO placing Obama in severe legal jeopardy because no attorney will be willing to go to jail just to place a forged “certified” Obama BC (either short or long) into evidence.
Obama’s own lawyers and staff have been treating the HI LFBC pdf like it was Kryptonite! They wouldn't even let Obama HOLD it at the WH “release” press gaggle.
So, IMO, if Obama’s pdf BC is forged, as we suspect, Hatfield is mounting a potentially fatal legal challenge for Obama just by demanding production of any certified BC. Even the Obots over at Fogbow say over and over that Obama’s attorney should just show up with one of the two alleged “self-authenticating LFBC’s next Thursday and the hearing would be over. That only works if the LFBC is genuine!"
COMMENT #47 (SvenMagnussen):
"An attorney needs a witness to submit evidence for admission to the record. For example, the Judge reads the case file number and ask representatives of the parties to introduce themselves for the record. The Judge then says, “Call your first witness.”
I’ve seen posts indicating Obama’s attorney could use the Georgia Democratic Chairman to submit the certified copy of Obama’s COLB, but that calls into question the chain of custody. How did he obtain it? How did he preserve it? Who’s had access to it? In this case, it would probably be disallowed as hearsay.
The only viable way to have a certified copy of Obama’s COLB submitted as evidence is to call Obama as a witness and have him produced it for the Court’s consideration. If admitted, Obama’s attorney could ask Obama how he obtained it. Who’s had access to it? How has he preserved it?
Of course, opposing Counsel would have the opportunity to cross-examine the witness and impeach the evidence through his sworn testimony.
Is this a certified copy of the only birth record you’ve requested from the Hawai’i DoH?
Can you describe the certified copy of any other birth record you’ve requested and received from Hawai’i DoH?
Does the certified copy of the birth record you’ve submitted to the Court as evidence have signatures of witness(es) who attested to your birth?
Did the certified copy of the “long form” you’ve requested have witness(es) who signed statements attesting to the act of your birth?
Why have those witness(es) withdrawn their signatures and attestation from your current birth record?
etc ....
Obama won’t show and his lawyer can’t introduce evidence of his birth certificate without him or a Hawai’i official to submit it."
View the Free Republic thread at:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2836297/posts
I need to get in contact with a Georgia attorney who supports the challenges to Obama's eligibility based on his birth certificate forgeries. This is desperately urgent!
Can somebody please help me?
COMMENT #12 (butterdezillion)
"The only attorney who is arguing the birth certificate issue is Orly Taitz. The other 2 challenges are based sheerly on the NBC issue. As seizethecarp has been saying for quite a while, the NBC argument could fall apart if Obama argues that BHO’s marriage to Ann is null because he was already married to Kezia and the US doesn’t allow bigamy. If Obama argued that - and actually if that is true - then if what seizethecarp is saying about Britain’s laws is correct, Obama would not have been born a British subject or citizen or whatever it is because Britain does not confer citizenship on illegitimate children born on foreign soil to British fathers.
And a recent Facebook ad suggests that this may well be the route that Obama’s people are going to take. A head-fake.
I’ve always said that we should not put all our eggs in either the birthplace or the NBC basket. As it stands right now, for better or for worse, Orly is the only person who is willing to take on Obama’s forgery and perjury and WHY he forged those BC’s. Her plate is very, very full and she’s had difficulty getting all the technical legal points taken care of - which is understandable given all that she’s been doing.
I have something that Judge Malihi DEFINITELY needs to see. But I need to make sure it is acceptable to the court, and that means I need a GA attorney who can be trusted to do this right. I’ve already tried contacting Van Irion and Hatfield; they are not interested. Their eggs are all in the NBC basket. More power to them and I hope they win. But I fear that Obama’s people have done a massive head-fake on them and I don’t want to risk that. (bold emphasis added) .................Nellie"
COMMENT #36 (Seizethecarp):
"I believe that only Van Irion is exclusively pursuing the Minor v Happersett NBC issue.
Hatfield filed a demand to Obama for production of a long list of documents including a certified HI BC, SS records and academic records and passport applications:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogs...-attorney.html
While not accusing Obama of fraud, like Orly, Hatfield is, IMO placing Obama in severe legal jeopardy because no attorney will be willing to go to jail just to place a forged “certified” Obama BC (either short or long) into evidence.
Obama’s own lawyers and staff have been treating the HI LFBC pdf like it was Kryptonite! They wouldn't even let Obama HOLD it at the WH “release” press gaggle.
So, IMO, if Obama’s pdf BC is forged, as we suspect, Hatfield is mounting a potentially fatal legal challenge for Obama just by demanding production of any certified BC. Even the Obots over at Fogbow say over and over that Obama’s attorney should just show up with one of the two alleged “self-authenticating LFBC’s next Thursday and the hearing would be over. That only works if the LFBC is genuine!"
COMMENT #47 (SvenMagnussen):
"An attorney needs a witness to submit evidence for admission to the record. For example, the Judge reads the case file number and ask representatives of the parties to introduce themselves for the record. The Judge then says, “Call your first witness.”
I’ve seen posts indicating Obama’s attorney could use the Georgia Democratic Chairman to submit the certified copy of Obama’s COLB, but that calls into question the chain of custody. How did he obtain it? How did he preserve it? Who’s had access to it? In this case, it would probably be disallowed as hearsay.
The only viable way to have a certified copy of Obama’s COLB submitted as evidence is to call Obama as a witness and have him produced it for the Court’s consideration. If admitted, Obama’s attorney could ask Obama how he obtained it. Who’s had access to it? How has he preserved it?
Of course, opposing Counsel would have the opportunity to cross-examine the witness and impeach the evidence through his sworn testimony.
Is this a certified copy of the only birth record you’ve requested from the Hawai’i DoH?
Can you describe the certified copy of any other birth record you’ve requested and received from Hawai’i DoH?
Does the certified copy of the birth record you’ve submitted to the Court as evidence have signatures of witness(es) who attested to your birth?
Did the certified copy of the “long form” you’ve requested have witness(es) who signed statements attesting to the act of your birth?
Why have those witness(es) withdrawn their signatures and attestation from your current birth record?
etc ....
Obama won’t show and his lawyer can’t introduce evidence of his birth certificate without him or a Hawai’i official to submit it."
View the Free Republic thread at:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2836297/posts