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  • BOAC: The August 1961 Trip from Nairobi to Seattle by Ann Dunham & BHO-II

    The following is a excerpt from a comment by 'Yosemitest' in the Free Republic thread titled, 'OBAMA'S KENYAN PAL TARGET OF TELL-ALL BOOK', which was started 2/22/2012 by 'Fractal Trader'

    The thread references a 2/22/2012 article having that same title, which was posted on WND.


    The Free Republic thread can be viewed at:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2850102/posts

    Excerpt from COMMENT #41 in the thread by 'Yosemitest':

    To: 21twelve

    From the Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables, the cost of BOAC from April 24,1960 until October 1, 1962 was:

    From Vancouver to Nairobi cost in Canadian Dollars:
    Single Return
    DL 1115.00 2026.80
    F 1055.50 1918.80
    T 764.00 1396.00
    Y 701.00 1282.60


    Passanger Fares could be "FLY NOW AND PAY LATER". (http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-16.jpg)
    Arrangements could be made whereby residents of certain areas may, on payment of a 10% deposit, travel immediately and pay the balance of fare in monthly instalments.

    Passanger Information for that time frame can be found here. (http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-15.jpg)

    Connections from Nairobi - Lusaka - Salisbury can be found here. (http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-14.jpg)

    The BOAC World Routes Map is found here. (http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-13.jpg)

    Departure arrival times from Britian to Nairobi are found here. (http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-12.jpg)

    Departure arrival times for London and Vancouver are found here. (http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-02.jpg)

    righthttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Kenya_relief_location_map.jpg/109px-Kenya_relief_location_map.jpg

    41 posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:46:25 AM by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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    The image of the 'BOAC World Routes Map' referenced above is reproduced below:




    The related thread, 'Speculation: Ann Dunham's Spring 1961 Sea Voyage from Honolulu to Mombasa' is linked below:

    http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/I...=1500#post1500
    Last edited by bsteadman; 05-08-2012, 03:34 PM.
    B. Steadman

  • #2
    Speculation regarding the possible flight by Ann Dunham with her new baby boy, BHO-II, in mid to late August 1961 from Embakasi Airport, Nairobi to London Airport (North Side)

    Based on the April 24, 1960 BOAC schedule (Section: Britain – East & Central Africa) linked below, it is possible, for example, that Ann Dunham and her new baby took BOAC Flight BA162 (Sunday or Wednesday) in August 1961 on a ‘Bristol Britannia Turboprop Aircraft’ which departed Nairobi at 20.30 (GMT +3), made stops in Entebbe, Khartoum, and Rome, and arrived in London at 12.35 (GMT +1) on the next day. Thus, the total flight time was just slightly over 18 hours. Two main meals and a breakfast were served on the flight. Britannia Flight BA160 (Thursday or Saturday), another possibility, did not stop in Entebbe and therefore arrived in London a few hours earlier.

    As another possibility, Ann and her newborn son could have taken BOAC Flight BA116 (Monday, Tuesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday) on a 'de Havilland Comet 4 Jet Aircraft', which departed Nairobi at 3:35 (GMT+3), made stops only in Khartoum and Rome, and arrived in London at 14.15 (GMT+1). The total flight time for this option was just slightly under 13 hours. A breakfast and a main meal were served on the flight. Comet 4 Flight BA122 (Wednesday), another possibility, had the same flight time of slightly under 13 hours.


    http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-12.jpg

    Thanks to Freeper 'Yosemitest' for the reference to the 1960 BOAC Timetable, which was given in COMMENT #41 in the Free Republic thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2850102/posts

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    Image of the BOAC World air routes, published April 24, 1960:

    http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-13.jpg

    Image of the BOAC air routes in Africa, published April 24, 1960:

    http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...62/ba62-36.jpg

    Video: An East African Comet 4 Aircraft Lands at Embakasi Airport in 1963:

    Uploaded 3/24/2009 by 'rafflesnh'

    http://youtu.be/zlB-OPwsmzc

    Video: A BOAC Britannia Lands at Aden Airport in 1961

    Uploaded by FBCCine 4/29/2007

    http://youtu.be/prUYCjR3Ww8


    Video: BOAC Cabin Crew VC10 Advertisement 1960s/70s

    Uploaded 3/12/2010 by 'koksy'

    The ad shown in the video linked below was probably produced in about 1964 when the new BOAC VC10 aircraft was first introduced into the fleet serving Kenya and other locations in Africa. Ann and BHO-II would not have traveled in this aircraft but I think the film does give a good picture of the high level of customer service provided by the BOAC flight crews in the 1960’s. Note the stewardess handling the baby bottle at about the 0.10 mark and then interacting with the new mother and her child at about the 0.32 mark.

    http://youtu.be/Wqm0_pNXsMs

    Video: Nairobi Embakasi Airport 1963

    Uploaded 3/24/2009 by ‘rafflesnh’

    The video linked below shows general aircraft and passenger activity at the Nairobi Embakasi Airport in 1963, two years after the birth of BHO-II in Mombasa, Kenya

    http://youtu.be/zlB-OPwsmzc

    The page linked below shows historical images of the Nairobi Embakasi Airport:

    http://www.mccrow.org.uk/EastAfrica/...20Airports.htm
    Last edited by bsteadman; 03-15-2012, 08:09 PM.
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    • #3
      Did an American missionary (tragically assassinated in Kenya in January 2007) accompany a pregnant Ann Dunham from Nairobi to Mombasa, where BHO-II was born at the Coast Province General Hospital?

      Then, did this same missionary accompany Ann and her newborn son on separate BOAC flights, first from Nairobi to London, and then London to Vancouver, Canada in August 1961, just prior to Ann starting night school extension classes at the University of Washington in Seattle?

      If so, this missionary could have been of been of great help in providing assistance to Ann, a new and inexperienced mother, who was still only eighteen at the time.




      'SatinDoll' joined the Free Republic community in 2000 and she is an active and respected 'Freeper'. Her posts regarding Obama's birth in Kenya have included the following two particularly interesting entries.

      To: SvenMagnussen

      “Try being proactive and research this issue yourself without the drama.”

      That’s avoidance of answering the request for a source by accusing me of being ‘dramatic’.

      I’ve been researching Obama’s background since March, 2008. This was the normal pattern for me, researching the backgrounds of candidates, that I used every national election.

      In researching Obama, it was a bizarre experience. Information was literally being scrubbed from archives as I went about looking for info. The final sources of information, the last to be scrubbed, was African news journals, and those overwhelmingly described Barak H. Obama, II, as born in Kenya.

      The summer of 2008 I determined, to my satisfaction, that Obama wasn’t born in the U.S.

      A year ago I was contacted by someone with information about a family of missionaries, two of whom had been assassinated in Kenya, because one of them had accompanied Stanley Ann Dunham and her newborn son from Kenya back to the U.S.A. in August, 1961.


      I call that tragic, not dramatic.

      And I have not ignored Barry Soetoro’s school record.

      A private investigator, Neil Sankey, discovered Soetoro used a ‘SSN’ number beginning with a 999-xx-xxxx prefix while attending Occidental College. This isn’t a SSN but a tracking number used by the federal government to keep tabs on foreign students receiving education aid.

      16 posted on Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:32:08 PM by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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      (bold and underline emphasis added)

      The post can be viewed at:

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-...sts?page=16#16


      To: eak3

      Barak Obama was born in Mombassa, Kenya.

      His mother was driven to a hospital there, from the airport in Nairobi, Kenya, by an American missionary. This missionary woman was assassinated in January of 2007, right in front of her husband
      .


      16 posted on Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:51:49 AM by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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      (bold and underline emphasis added)

      The post can be viewed at:

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-...sts?page=16#16
      Last edited by bsteadman; 02-28-2012, 08:09 PM.
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      • #4
        Speculation regarding the possible flight by Ann Dunham with her new baby boy, BHO-II, in mid to late August 1961 from London to Vancouver, Canada, prior to their trip to Seattle, Washington where she started attended night school extension classes at the University of Washington in the Fall Semester.

        Based on the April 24, 1960 BOAC schedule (Section: Europe - Britain - Ireland - Canada - USA) linked below, it is possible, for example, that Ann Dunham and her new baby son took Trans Canada Flight TC541 (Wednesday) in August 1961 on a Lockheed ‘Super Constellation’ which departed London (North Side) at 17.00 (GMT +1), made stops in Glasgow, Scotland, Winnipeg, Canada, and arrived in Vancouver at 7.40 (GMT -7) on Thursday morning. Thus, the total flight time for the trip was just slightly under 23 hours.

        http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-02.jpg




        Video: Lockheed L-1049 Breitling Super Constellation Sion Airshow HD:

        Uploaded 9/24/2011 by 'valoutnet'

        http://youtu.be/vqd7AYJAIEE
        Last edited by bsteadman; 03-25-2012, 12:49 PM.
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        • #5
          Speculation regarding the possible flight by Ann Dunham with her new baby boy, BHO-II, in August 1961 from London to San Francisco, prior to their trip to Seattle, Washington where she started attended night school extension classes at the University of Washington in the Fall Semester.

          Based on the April 24, 1960 BOAC schedule (Section: M. East - Europe - U.K. - USA - Japan - Hong Kong - Australia) linked below, it is possible, for example, that Ann Dunham and her new baby son (UPDATE: or another person of interest) took BOAC Flight BA581 (Monday & Saturday) in August 1961 on a 'Bristol Britannia Turboprop Aircraft', which departed London (GMT +1) at 23.00 (GMT +1) made one stop in New York City, and arrived in San Francisco at 13.35 (GMT -7) on the next day. Thus, the total flight time for the trip was just slightly under 24 hours.

          Alternatively, they could have taken Quantas Empire Airways Flight EM773 (Monday & Friday) in August 1961 on a 'Boeing 707 Jet Aircraft', which departed London (GMT +1) at 10.00 (GMT +1) made one stop in New York City, and arrived in San Francisco at 18.50 (GMT -7) on the same day. Thus, the total flight time for the trip was just slightly under 17 hours.

          http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-02.jpg

          The driving distance between San Francisco and Seattle is about 807 miles. If mother and child did indeed pass thorugh San Francisco, I believe it is more likely that they took a domestic airline flight from there to Seattle rather than covering the distance by bus or car.




          It seems to me that the trip from London to Seattle could have been made more conveniently via Vancouver. However, it is certainly possible that Ann Dunham could have chosen to make the trip via San Francisco.

          The reason I am now bringing up the San Francisco route, results from a statement made today (3/1/2012) by Sheriff Joe Arpaio in his press conference. The essence of his statement is summarized in the following report:

          "To quell the popular idea that Obama was actually born outside the United States, we examined the Records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards routinely filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights that originated outside the United States in the month of August 1961. Those records are housed at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. Interestingly, records from the days surrounding Obama’s birth, August 1, 1961 to August 7, 1961 are missing. This is the only week in 1961 were these immigration cards
          cannot be found.


          http://www.mcso.org/MultiMedia/Press...mafindings.pdf

          It's puzzling why someone would delete or withhold the INS records for incoming international flights to the USA for the week in question if Ann Dunham and her son returned to the North American continent in August 1961 via Vancouver, Canada. Therefore, the possibility must be considered that they may have returned via San Francisco.

          However, I was very surprised to learn from Sheriff Arpaio's March 1st press conference that the date block of deleted or withheld INS records (August 1 - August 7) was so close to the date (August 4) that BHO-II was allegedly born. I would have thought that Ann Dunham would have waited considerably longer before traveling back to the USA with her new baby.This is very strange!

          Perhaps Ann and baby DID travel back via Vancouver accompanied by the 'missionary' but another person of interest to this story traveled back, via San Francisco on their way to Hawaii. For example, could it have been Ann's mother or father, or perhaps BHO Sr? It is certainly understandable why those seeking to keep the facts in this matter hidden, would delete or withhold the pertinent, archived INS documents, which would identify this person!

          Trying to put it all together, using the facts that we currently have, I think the most likely scenario is that Ann and baby BHO, perhaps accompanied by the 'missionary', may have traveled back from Kenya to London to Seattle via Vancouver in mid to late August 1961. Another person of interest, such as one of Ann's parents, a close friend, or BHO Sr., probably traveled from Kenya to London to Hawaii, via New York and San Francisco, within just a few days after BHO-II's birth on August 4th.


          It would also have been possible for this 'person of interest' to travel north and east from Nairobi and first land on USA soil in Honolulu, via BOAC. A trip via BOAC to Cairo, then Pan Am to Honolulu could have been another choice, for example. However, I believe this north/east route would have involved more stops and difficulties. Based on Barack Obama Sr's INS records, he traveled from Nairobi to Hawaii via London and New York, so I presume that he judged this north/west route be the easiest way to make the trip. Of course, it is possible that he just wanted to visit friends, for example, during stopovers in New York or San Francisco and thus chose the north/west route from Nairobi for that reason.



          The video linked below is titled, 'Jet Travel via Boeing 707: 6 1/2 Magic Hours 1958 Pan Am 12 min'

          It was uploaded 1/31/2012 by 'webdev17'

          http://youtu.be/UxP0eN5efgc
          Last edited by bsteadman; 03-15-2012, 08:30 PM.
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          • #6
            After considering the facts revealed in Sheriff Arpaio's March 1st press conference, I am now more convinced than ever that Ann Dunham and her newborn son, BHO-II, returned from Kenya to the USA via Vancouver, Canada prior to starting night school extension classes at the University of Washington in Seattle in the Fall Semester of 1961.

            The following is a quote from the Sheriff Arpaio's March 1st press release: (http://www.mcso.org/MultiMedia/Press...mafindings.pdf)

            "To quell the popular idea that Obama was actually born outside the United States, we examined the Records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards routinely filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights that originated outside the United States in the month of August 1961. Those records are housed at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. Interestingly, records from the days surrounding Obama’s birth, August 1, 1961 to August 7, 1961 are missing. This is the only week in 1961 were these immigration cards cannot be found."

            The following is a quote from the unofficial transcript of the press conference: (http://www.scribd.com/doc/83474057/A...cript-1-MAR-12)

            "Going forward, other information surfaced regarding allegations of Mr. Obama being born abroad and not in Hawaii. Without having this document to rely on, we were now forced to look into some other issues.

            There was speculation that he was born in Kenya, that’s been out there forever. We tried to determine, is there a way for us to find out if that’s true. We all know that every document surrounding Mr. Obama’s birth is basically sealed, or doesn’t exist, or, you know, we’re told something about it.

            We took an unusual step. We knew back in 1960, 61, any flight coming in from overseas to Hawaii would have been, I believe, Pan Am or TWA, and we tried to see if there was an opportunity for us to get passenger manifests. There wasn’t obviously. They don’t exist any longer.

            We reached out to the National Archives and asked them the same question. The National Archives responded and informed us that they didn’t have manifests, but what they actually did have was microfilm copies of INS records depicting of every individual coming into the country from overseas.

            We asked them to copy those records from microfilm onto viewable microfilm rolls for us. They did. I believe we asked for a ten year span of time. 685 rolls, or something to that effect. We asked Mr. Corsi, because he’s local in that area, to go down and view those for us.

            Mr. Corsi went in looking for the month of August, 1961. That is the birthdate of the President. Not the exact birth date, that is his birth month. Mr. Corsi was examining those records. When he got to August 1st, through the day of August7th, those records disappeared from the microfilm. And they picked up on August9th? August 8th. And then continued on.

            We petitioned the Archives and asked them why this occurred, if they had any reason, an explanation. To date, they do not. What does that translate to us? We don’t know if Stanley Ann Dunham, or Mr. Obama as an infant, was on an airplane coming into the country. We don’t know if he was, we don’t know if he isn’t, and we cannot make that determination. As a result, we still have to entertain information now that he was possibly born abroad."


            The following is a quote from the 9/1/2009 WND article by Jerome R. Corsi titled, “Official Obama Nativity Story Continues to Unravel” (http://www.wnd.com/2009/09/107889/)

            “WND has found new evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham, President Obama’s mother, was in Seattle in August 1961, within days of her son’s birth, contrary to the accepted narrative.”

            I believe it is highly unlikely that Ann and her newborn baby would be traveling from Kenya back to the USA during the time period covered by the ‘missing INS records’. The latest date covered in the missing records, August 7th, was only 3 days after the alleged birth of her son on August 4th. Although probably not impossible, it seems very improbable that the missing records showing flight entries into the USA were meant to hide the return of Ann and BHO-II.

            According to the information given on Obama's Kenyan CPGH-BC, BHO-II was born at 7:24 pm in the evening on August 4, 1961. A 1961 calendar covering the East African region shows that August 4th was a Friday. Thus, Ann most certainly could not even start traveling until the morning of Saturday, August 5th. She would first have to travel the 330 miles or so from Mombasa up to Nairobi, then catch a flight to London, and then catch another flight in time to land in the USA by August 7th, only 2 days later. She would pick up about 8 hours due to the time zone changes by flying west prior to first landing in New York. However, it seems virtually impossible to me for a first time new mother and child to arrive in the USA by August 7th.

            I think it is much more likely that Ann and BHO-II made the trip from Kenya back to Seattle in mid to late August 1961 via Vancouver. Since she did not fly into the USA, there was no need for Obama's operatives to keep hidden any other INS card records.

            I believe if she had made the trip from Kenya to Seattle, via London, New York and San Francisco, Obama's operatives would have hidden a block of INS cards for a date range in mid to late August.

            Thus, the missing records for August 1st through August 7th probably were intended to hide the identity of another person of interest who was returning from Kenya via London, New York, and San Francisco, on there way back to Honolulu, such as a parent or close friend of Ann, or BHO Sr., her claimed husband and father of the child.
            Last edited by bsteadman; 03-05-2012, 01:20 AM.
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            • #7
              THERE IS ABSOLUTELY TOO MUCH RHETORIC AND SPECULATION BY THE ' OVER ' ANALYTICAL JEROME CORSI . IT SEEMS THAT HE HAS ACTUALLY CONSIDERED
              THE HIGH PROBABILITY THAT BOZO WAS BORN IN KENYA , BUT HE WANDERS ALL OVER THE MAP WITH ASSUMPTIONS AND UNNECESSARY ELOCUTION .
              CORSI , FARAH , UNRAH , FALKENSTEIN ( all of WORLD NET DAILY ) , PLUS SHERIFF JOE ( pink pants ) ARPAIO AND HIS ' ICE COLD POSSE ' SHOULD LOOK AT THE
              KENYAN DOCUMENT OWNED BY LUCAS SMITH AND HAVE THAT ANALYZED BY THE SAME ' SO CALLED EXPERTS ' WHO SO PROFESSIONALLY VETTED THE PHONY , PHOTOSHOPPED , FORGED , FAKE , FRAUDULENT PIECE OF TOILET PAPER POSTED ONLINE BY obozo ' s OPERATIVES . THERE WERE ALSO POSTS BY SOMEONE WHO ADMITTED TO CREATING THE FORGERY , AND THE ' ICE COLD POSSE ' SHOULD INVESTIGATE THAT CLAIM . " WE THE PEOPLE " ARE SICK AND TIRED OF SELF PROCLAIMED EXPERTS WHO HAVE DONE A HALF ASSED JOB OF INVESTIGATING THE TREASONOUS USURPER , AND WE DESPERATELY NEED SOME REAL RESULTS .
              >>> DEFINITION OF EXPERT : IN ALGEBRA , x STANDS FOR AN UNKNOWN . IF YOU HOLD A FINGER ON THE FAUCET AND OPEN IT , YOU GET A ' SPURT ' .
              AN " EXPERT " IS AN UNKNOWN DRIP UNDER PRESSURE . DEAR GOD , PLEASE HELP US TO EXPOSE AND DEPOSE THE SELF APPOINTED DICTATOR OF AMERICA .

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              • #8
                Did Ann Dunham and her newborn son, BHO-II fly back through Vancouver or San Francisco? It now seems we just don't have enough information yet to make an accurate guess.

                Note on Page 14 of the below linked INS Records for Barack H. Obama Sr., provided by Heather Smathers, that he lists BOAC as the airline on which he first traveled to the USA from Kenya and that his port of entry was New York City. Based on this information, I think it is likely that he would have recommended BOAC as the airline of choice for his wife (?) Ann Dunham to take from Kenya back to the USA following the birth of BHO-II at the CPGH in Mombasa.

                http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/B...migration-File

                I just finished reading the new e-book titled, “A Question of Eligibility” by Jerome R. Corsi and Michael Zullo, which is available on Amazon.com. The following are excerpts from Chapter 4, INS Passenger Records: Foreign Flights into Hawaii, page 23:

                “To date, investigators have not been able to locate the relevant airline passenger flight manifests for 1961.

                In the process of the search however, investigators did locate records of cards the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service required for all passengers – including both U.S. citizens and foreign citizens – to fill out and file with passport control when arriving in Honolulu from a foreign city of origin.

                Microfilm records of INS cards for passengers arriving in New York on foreign files in 1961 have been found in the National Archives only recently: consequently these records have not yet been examined.”

                Thus, it appears that the missing records for the dates August 1, 1961 through August 7, 1961 inclusive, as reported in the March 1st press conference, are pertinent only to flights arriving in Honolulu. I based my original speculation on the belief that Mr. Zullo’s team had examined the INS card records for passengers arriving anywhere in the USA, not just Honolulu.

                I don’t see why Ann and her newborn child would need to fly all the way from London to Honolulu and then take a return flight back to Seattle in time to start fall semester night school extension courses at the University of Washington. Why not just go from London directly to Vancouver and then make the relatively short trip of 141 miles or so to Seattle.

                Furthermore, it now seems possible that Ann, instead of flying from London to Vancouver, could also have flown from London to New York, prior to continuing on to San Francisco in mid to late August 1961.

                We will just have to wait and see if Mr. Zullo and the Cold Case Posse can obtain any useful information from an examination of those INS cards of passengers arriving in New York before we can get a better picture of just which route Ann and baby BHO-II took from Mombasa back to Seattle.

                I still think the BOAC flight from London to Vancouver is the most logical route choice!
                Last edited by bsteadman; 03-06-2012, 09:27 PM.
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                • #9
                  It was certainly possible, back in August 1962, to have traveled from Nairobi, Kenya to either Honolulu, Hawaii or the West Coast of the USA utilizing the services of Pan Am Airways for some portion of the trip. However, I think that the EASIEST and most STRAIGHT FORWARD way to have made the trip would have been via BOAC.

                  The following is a reported quote from Michael Zullo as it appears in the unofficial transcript of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s March 1, 2012 press conference, which is linked below.

                  http://www.scribd.com/doc/83474057/A...cript-1-MAR-12

                  “We took an unusual step. We knew back in 1960, 61, any flight coming in from overseas to Hawaii would have been, I believe, Pan Am or TWA, and we tried to see if there was an opportunity for us to get passenger manifests. There wasn’t obviously. They don’t exist any longer.”

                  I did some research on flight schedules during the early 1960s for Pan Am and TWA to see what type of services they provided for Nairobi, Kenya and located the following:

                  Pan American Airways - PAA (Pan Am)

                  Pan Am Air Routes Map 1/1/1958:

                  http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...58/pa58-13.jpg

                  Pan Am Schedule 1/1/1958 showing only limited connections in South and West Africa, including the cities of Johannesburg, Leopoldville, Accra, Monrovia, and Dakar. Pan Am did not land in Nairobi in 1958 but it DID land in Honolulu.

                  http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...58/pa58-06.jpg

                  Pan Am Air Routes Map 8/1/1963:

                  http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...63/pa63-10.jpg

                  Pan Am Schedule 8/1/1963. Pan Am did not land in Nairobi in 1963 but it DID land in Honolulu.

                  http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...63/pa63-07.jpg

                  Trans World Airlines (TWA)

                  TWA Air Routes Map 4/24/1960:

                  http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/tw60-04.jpg

                  TWA 4/24/1960 Eastbound International Schedule, coverage for Northern Africa, including Cairo, Egypt. TWA did NOT land in either Nairobi or Honolulu in 1960..:

                  http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/tw60-11.jpg

                  TWA, Air Routes Map 8/29/1962:

                  http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...62/tw62-01.jpg

                  TWA 8/29/1962 Eastbound International Schedule. TWA did NOT land in either Nairobi or Honolulu in 1962.:

                  http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...62/tw62-06.jpg

                  CONCLUSION: I’m sure, back in 1961, one could have arranged through an airline routinely serving Nairobi, such as BOAC, to fly north and then connect with Pan Am in Cairo, Egypt, for example, before flying east to either Honolulu, Hawaii or the West Coast of the USA. However, the distances involved seem to be very roughly similar, either going north from Nairobi up to London and then west to the USA via BOAC all the way, or going north up to Cairo via BOAC for example, and then changing airlines and flying east to the USA via Pan Am.

                  TWA was not a viable option for use in traveling from Nairobi to Honolulu or the USA West Coast in 1961 since it did not land in either Nairobi, Honolulu or the USA West Coast (by flying in from across the Pacific) .

                  We know, based on the information given on Page 14 of the below linked INS records file, Barack Obama Sr. took BOAC from Nairobi to Honolulu, via New York city, in August 1959 when he first attended the University of Hawaii. I think it is very likely that Ann and baby BHO-II also took BOAC from Nairobi to either Vancouver (most probably) or San Francisco in mid to late August 1961 prior to her starting night school extension courses at the University of Washington in Seattle.

                  http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/B...migration-File
                  Last edited by bsteadman; 03-18-2012, 02:22 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Free Republic is running a thread titled, "National Archives Confirm INS Records For Week Of Obama's Birth Mysteriously Missing", which was started 3/10/2012 by 'OUTKAST'

                    The thread references a 3/8/2012 Birther Report article having the same title.

                    I just finished entering COMMENT #55 under my user name 'WhizCodger' in the thread. My comment was in reply to a comment by 'Yosemitest' and included some excerpts from this thread on InspectorSmith.

                    Note: I routinely and frequently monitor the comments of few key individuals posting on Free Republic who I believe are particularly intelligent, logical in their thinking, and well informed on the Obama Eligibility Issue. However, I have not actually logged into FR and read my email inbox since last November. I see that I have several e-mails directed to me, dating back these several months, which I have not answered. I sincerely and publicly apologize to each of the individuals involved for this oversight.

                    The reason I am mentioning the matter here is that I found today, when trying to respond to one of these emails, that I was not permitted to do so! I conclude that I have been restricted by the FR management from communicating directly with other Freepers. I also noted that my most recent comment had to go through 'moderation' before it was posted, even though I have been a member of FR since September 2009, and this has never been a previous requirement, except during the first week or so of membership. In other words, I apparently have not been 'zotted' on FR, but I AM being 'watched' and 'restricted in my activities'. Hmmmm!

                    View the complete Free Republic thread at:

                    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ch...s?q=1&;page=51
                    Last edited by bsteadman; 03-11-2012, 06:26 PM.
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                      The Daily Pen Article, INS Doc Found + Proposed BHO-II Nativity Timeline

                      Conclusions and Speculations after evaluating the 3/23/2012 article by Dan Crosby on The Daily Pen titled, "INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961"!


                      The Daily Pen article can be viewed at:

                      http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012...issued-to.html

                      The new facts released in the Daily Pen article do not in any way detract from my scenario of a return BOAC air trip from Kenya to Seattle by Ann Dunham and BHO-II via London and Vancouver in mid to late August 1961.

                      The BOAC World Air Routes map, published April 24, 1960, is linked below:

                      http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...60/ba60-13.jpg


                      These facts do NOT support their return trip by air to the USA via London, New York and San Francisco, for example, except with some difficulty and required explanation by the author of the article. (0 'citizens', 1 'alien' -- These data do NOT show, in an obvious manner, that Ann could have accompanied BHO-II on the flight returning to the USA)

                      The facts released indicate that neither BHO Sr. nor either of Ann's parents was likely present at the birth of BHO-II at the CPGH in Mombasa.

                      The data showing that a COC (Certificate of Citizenship) was granted for one (1) alien during the time period, July 1, 1961 to December 31, 1961, embarking from large area in Africa, though not strong, DOES at least support the possibility that BHO-II was born in Kenya.

                      A proposed timeline is presented, which shows the major events occurring during the time period surrounding the birth of BHO-II[/B]



                      http://archive.org/stream/annualrepo...ge/99/mode/1up

                      TABLE 32. PERSONS DEPARTED FROM THE UNITED STATES, BY SEA AND AIR, TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES, BY COUNTRY OF DEBARKATION, YEAR ENDED JUNE 30, 1962 (Cont’d) {Exclusive of Canadian travel over land borders}

                      Country of Debarkation: Kenya:
                      • BY SEA -- Shows 3 ‘aliens’ and 60 ‘citizens’
                      • BY AIR –- Shows 0 ‘aliens’ and 0 ‘citizens’



                      TABLE 31. PERSONS ARRIVED IN THE UNITED STATES, BY SEA AND AIR, FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES, BY COUNTRY OF EMBARKATION, YEAR ENDED JUNE 30, 1962 (Cont’d) {Exclusive of Canadian travel over land borders}

                      Country of Embarkation: Kenya:
                      ....... BY AIR -- Shows 1 ‘alien’ and 0 ‘citizen’

                      Conclusion: This one (1) ‘alien’ MIGHT (?) be BHO-II, but I rather doubt it. The data do not show any ‘citizen’ (mother) accompanying the ‘alien'. The article attempts to explain this fact away, but I have my doubts. Entry to the USA from Vancouver, over the Canadian Border, seems much more logical and likely.

                      However, the 0 ‘citizens’ and 0 'aliens' (Debarkation via Air to Kenya) figure gives a strong signal that neither BHO-Sr nor parent of Ann were present with her at the birth of BHO-II. These Honolulu-based individuals would most likely have traveled via Air both ways and would have traveled BOAC to and from Kenya via San Francisco, New York, and London. Since 0 citizens and 0 aliens show on the Debarkation to Kenya, I conclude these potential travelers were not present at the birth.



                      http://archive.org/stream/annualrepo...ge/19/mode/1up

                      Page 20, TABLE 3. ALIENS AND CITIZENS ADMITTED AT UNITED STATES PORTS OF ENTRY, YEARS ENDED JUNE 30, 1961 – 1962

                      Note that in the fiscal year ended June 30, 1962 that 26,628,601 ‘citizens’ and 30,778,071 ‘aliens’ were admitted to the USA from across the Canadian Border.



                      http://archive.org/stream/annualrepo...ge/14/mode/1up

                      Page 99, TABLE 48, CERTIFICATE OF CITIZENSHIP GRANTED TO PERSONS WHO DERIVED CITIZENSHIP AT BIRTH ABROAD, BY COUNTRY OR REGION OF BIRTH AND YEAR ACQUIRED, YEAR ENDED JUNE 30, 1962

                      The continent of AFRICA is subdivided in the chart to the following regions: Libya, Morroco, South Africa, United Arab Republic (Egypt), and ‘Other Africa’ The table shows 1 individual who was granted a COC from the ‘Other Africa’ region for Calendar Year Acquired: 1961.

                      Based on the information in the article, the researchers examined a similar chart for the Year ended June 30, 1961 and observed that 0 individuals from this same region were granted COCs between January 1, 1961 and June 30, 1961. Therefore, by subtraction, it was determined that one (1) individual from this region was granted a COC in the time period July 30, 1961 to December 31, 1961. This might indeed be BHO-II, but the argument for it is not very strong, since the 'Other Africa' designation for the origin of the individual is extremely broad.

                      However, and importantly, the data does NOT rule out that BHO-II COULD have been granted a COC during this time period.


                      On brief searching of the referenced pages, I could not locate the chart for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1961 but I assume that the information presented is correct.




                      I believe the data presented in the article, with key portions cited above, support the following nativity timeline covering the birth of BHO-II at the CPGH in Mombasa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. Furthermore, I believe this to be the most logical and correct explanation for all the major events that transpired during this time period:

                      • Early November 1960: Ann Dunham becomes pregnant while a student at the University of Hawaii.
                      • February 2, 1961: Ann Dunham, now about 3 months pregnant, and BHO Sr. the claimed bio father, allegedly are married on Maui.
                      • Sometime in the approximate time period 2/2/1961 (marriage date) and 4/10/1961 (INS memo date): Ann and BHO Sr. attempt to make arrangements with the Salvation Army in Hawaii for the baby to be placed for adoption. (http://www.wnd.com/2011/11/365749/) Apparently, the attempt to place the baby up for adoption in Hawaii was not successful.
                      • Sometime in the approximate time period, March 1961 to April 1961: Ann, pregnant and now embarrassingly starting to show it, departs ALONE from Hawaii, via passenger cruise SHIP, and slowly heads across the ocean toward Kenya, with the intent of giving the baby to the Kenyan relatives of BHO Sr. for adoption. An extended sea voyage by Ann to Kenya, starting in the Spring of 1961, would help explain why there have not been any photos of her, while pregnant in Hawaii, publicly released.
                      • August 4, 1961: BHO-II is born at the CPGH in Mombasa. Neither BHO Sr nor either one of Ann's parents are present at the birth. BHO Sr's relatives choose not to adopt BHO-II so Ann had no choice but to return with him to the USA. It is also possible, but less likely that Ann, feeling very maternal after the birth, decides to forget about any pre-arranged adoption with the relatives and chooses to keep her new baby son. However, there has been some unconfirmed reports that Ann was trying to fly back to the USA from the Nairobi airport but delayed too long and was refused permission to travel by the airline. According to the report, she was then transported to Mombasa by an American Christian Missionary, for delivery of the baby. If it was pre-arranged with BHO Sr's relatives for them to adopt the child, it is not likely she would have been trying to fly back to the USA prior to the birth of BHO-II!
                      • Mid to late August, 1961: Ann, BHO-II and possibly the American Christian Missionary who may have accompanied them, depart from Nariobi, Kenya and fly, via BOAC, first to London, and then to Vancouver, Canada.
                      • Mid to late August, 1961 Ann and BHO-II, possibly still accompanied by the American Christian Missionary, travel the approximate 141 miles via ground transportation from Vancouver to Seattle, Washington, where Ann starts night school extension courses at the University of Washington for the Fall 1961 Semester (http://www.wnd.com/2009/09/107889/).
                      Last edited by bsteadman; 03-29-2012, 09:10 PM.
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                        >>> ONE MAJOR PROBLEM HERE . <<< THE INS ( IMMIGRATION & NATURALIZATION SERVICE ) FORM DISPLAYED IS ONLY SUGGESTIVE OF A POSSIBILITY THAT IT WAS bho II . IN NO WAY IS IT DEFINITE CONCLUSIVE TRUTH . THE IDIOBOTS WOULD HAVE EVEN MORE REASON TO LAUGH IF THIS DOCUMENT WERE PRESENTED AS EVIDENCE AGAINST obummer . LET US HOPE THAT SOMEONE CAN DIG DEEPER AND FIND THE NAME ATTACHED TO THE I.N.S. FORM , AND ALSO FIND THE MISSING TRAVEL RECORDS ON MICROFILM . OTHERWISE , IT IS AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY AND " GRASPING AT STRAWS ".

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