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    NBC Drops Bomb: Obama Found Birth Certificate April 14, 2011; Why Order One?

    Birther Report

    11/5/2013

    Excerpt:

    The following is absolutely unbelievable. NBC News' Today Show book section published excerpts from the soon-to-be released book 'Double Down' written by "journalists/politicalhacks/mediabigwigs" Mark Halperin and John Heilemann. They report Obama found his birth certificate, with footprints on it, at his house in Chicago on April 14th, 2011, while rummaging through some old boxes. Halperin and Heilemann also write Obama's mother died 7 years earlier even though Ann Dunham reportedly died in 1995. They write Obama was furious over the birther issue.

    Excerpts: 'Double Down': How Obama beat the birthers in 2012
    Mark Halperin and John Heilemann | TODAY books


    Obama had contended with birtherism since the previous campaign, when rumors surfaced that there was no record of his birth in Hawaii. The fringe theorists had grown distractingly shrill and increasingly insistent; after he won the nomination in June 2008, his team deemed it necessary to post his short-form birth certificate on the Web. The charge was lunacy, Obama thought. Simply mental. But it wouldn't go away. A recent New YorkTimes poll had found that 45 percent of Republicans and 25 percent of voters overall believed he was foreign born. And with Trump serving as a human bullhorn, the faux controversy had escaped the confines of Fox News and conservative talk radio, reverberating in the mainstream media. Just that morning, before Obama departed for Chicago, ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos had asked him about it in an interview, specifically citing Trump—twice.

    As Obama made his fund-raising rounds that night, he avoided mentioning Trump, yet the issue remained much on his mind. What confounded him about the problem, beyond its absurdity, was that there was no ready solution. Although Trump was braying for his original long-form birth certificate, officials in Obama’s home state were legally prohibited from releasing it on their own, and the president had no earthly idea where his family’s copy was. All he could do was joke about the topic, as he did at his final event of the night: “I grew up here in Chicago,” Obama told the crowd at Navy Pier, then added awkwardly, “I wasn't born here—just want to be clear. I was born in Hawaii.”

    Obama was looking forward to spending the night at his house in Kenwood, on the city’s South Side—the redbrick Georgian Revival pile that he and Michelle and their daughters left behind when they took up residence in the White House. He arrived fairly late, after 10:00 p.m., but then stayed up even later, intrigued by some old boxes that had belonged to his late mother, Ann Dunham.

    Dunham had died seven years earlier, but Obama hadn't sorted through all her things. Now, alone in his old house for just the third night since he’d become president, he started rummaging through the boxes, digging, digging, until suddenly he found it: a small, four-paneled paper booklet the world had never seen before. On the front was an ink drawing of Kapi‘olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, in Honolulu. On the back was a picture of a Hawaiian queen. On one inside page were his name, his mother’s name, and his date of birth; on the other were his infant footprints.

    The next morning, Marty Nesbitt came over to have breakfast with Obama. The CEO of an airport parking-lot company, Nesbitt was part of a tiny circle of Chicago friends on whom the president relied to keep him anchored in a reality outside the Washington funhouse. The two men had bonded playing pickup basketball two decades earlier; their relationship was still firmly rooted in sports, talking smack, and all around regular-guyness. After chatting for a while at the kitchen table, Obama went upstairs and came back down, wearing a cat-who-ate-a-whole-flock-of-canaries grin, waving the booklet in the air, and then placing it in front of Nesbitt.

    “Now, that’s some funny s__t,” Nesbitt said, and burst out laughing.

    Clambering into his heavily armored SUV, Obama headed back north to the InterContinental hotel, where he had an interview scheduled with the Associated Press. He pulled aside his senior adviser David Plouffe and press secretary Jay Carney, and eagerly showed them his discovery.

    Plouffe studied the thing, befuddled and wary: Is that the birth certificate? he thought.

    Carney was bewildered, too, but excited: This is the birth certificate? Awesome.

    Obama didn't know what to think, but he flew back to Washington hoping that maybe, just maybe, he now had a stake to drive through the heart of birtherism, killing it once and for all—and slaying Trump in the bargain. Striding into a meeting with his senior advisers in the Oval Office the next Monday morning, he reached into his suit pocket and whipped out the booklet, infinitely pleased with himself. [...] Continued/Video @ Today Show.

    So, April 14th, 2011, Obama found his actual birth documentation with his actual footprints on it yet on April 22nd, 2011, he had his attorney send a letter to Hawaii requesting two copies of his birth certificate. He then publishes a manipulated pdf of a purported birth certificate on the Internet.

    Question is; Why order/create one when you purportedly have the one with PRINTS on it?


    @Mark Halperin and @John Heilemann


    View the complete Birther Report presentation at:

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/11...und-birth.html
    Last edited by bsteadman; 11-06-2013, 03:52 PM.
    B. Steadman

  • #2
    New revelation: Obama finds his birth certificate

    Obama Conspiracy Theories

    Dr. Conspiracy
    11/4/2013

    WARNING: Site is not birther friendly

    Excerpt:

    A new book Double Down: Game Change 2012 by authors Mark Halperin and John Heilemann provides previously unpublished details of the release of Barack Obama’s long-form birth certificate in 2012. The authors of say that in April of 2011, the “most persistent distraction Obama was facing” was not Osama Bin Laden, or the face-off with Republicans over the debt ceiling, but Donald Trump and his “crackpot conspiracy theory.”

    The book explains the mystery of exactly what Obama body man Reggie Love was talking about (reported here last August) when he said that President Obama found his birth certificate among some old papers:

    Dunham had died seven years earlier, but Obama hadn’t sorted through all her things. Now, alone in his old house for just the third night since he’d become president, he started rummaging through the boxes, digging, digging, until suddenly he found it: a small, four-paneled paper booklet the world had never seen before. On the front was an ink drawing of Kapi‘olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, in Honolulu. On the back was a picture of a Hawaiian queen. On one inside page were his name, his mother’s name, and his date of birth; on the other were his infant footprints.


    The book tells us that Obama, after finding the hospital souvenir booklet, was motivated to release some documentation, and showed the booklet to his chief legal advisor, Robert Bauer. “White House Counsel Bob Bauer took one look at the booklet in Obama’s hand and knew it wasn’t the birth certificate. It was just a commemorative keepsake.” The book details the internal debate over releasing more birth documentation leading to an approach to the State of Hawaii for a copy of his original certificate. Nine days later, Bauer had the official certificate from Hawaii in his hand at the April 27 press conference.

    ..................................

    View the complete post at:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/...thers-in-2012/
    B. Steadman

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    • #3
      Hawaii Native Responds To NBC Report On Obama Finding Birth Certificate

      Birther Report

      11/6/2013

      Excerpt:

      Hawaii Native Miki Booth Responds To NBC Report On Obama Finding His Birth Certificate...

      AUDIO ...:
      ( Audio via WOBC. )

      Miki Booth Comments on NBC’s Altered Obama Life Story
      CLAIM: “BIRTH CERTIFICATE” OBAMA REPORTEDLY FOUND IS ACTUALLY A SOUVENIR
      By Sharon Rondeau | The Post & Email


      (Nov. 5, 2013) — Constitutional activist Miki Booth was the second guest on the WheresObamasBirthCertificate radio show on Tuesday evening hosted by Mike Volin, discussing a book soon to be released by two NBC “reporters” claiming that Obama “found” his long-form birth certificate at his home in Chicago two weeks before it was posted on the White House website.

      The two writers, Mark Halperin and John Heilemann, report that Obama located his birth certificate while rummaging through “some boxes.” Booth believes that the “birth certificate” described in the new book is a souvenir which Kapiolani Medical Center gives to parents whose babies are born there.

      The long-form birth certificate was declared a forgery by many document experts and the Maricopa County, AZ Cold Case Posse on March 1, 2012.

      Some are now asking why Obama’s personal attorney, Judith Corley, needed to travel to Honolulu, HI on April 22, 2011 to obtain two certified copies of Obama’s original birth certificate if Obama had found the original in Chicago almost two weeks prior.

      Booth said that the physician identified on Obama’s purported long-form birth certificate image is the same doctor who delivered her son in 1981 at Kapiolani, Dr. David Sinclair.

      The NBC writers claim that Obama “beat the birthers in 2012,” referring to Obama’s second presidential campaign and the many remaining questions about his birthplace, documentation and background.

      Douglas Vogt, who filed two affidavits with the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington with evidence of fraud, forgery and conspiracy regarding the Obama long-form birth certificate, named NBC executives and journalist Savannah Guthrie as involved in perpetuating the falsehood that the image released on April 27, 2011 is authentic.

      Vogt provided the following response to the NBC writers’ claims:

      Executives at GE, NBC and Savannah Guthrie are named in my Affidavits filed in the Seattle Federal Court. They know what they did and it is they who are doubling down on their lie. So, April 14th, 2011, Obama found his actual hospital birth documentation with his actual footprints on it yet on April 22nd, 2011, he had his attorney send a letter to Hawaii requesting two copies of his legal birth certificate. He then publishes a manipulated pdf of a purported birth certificate on the Internet. Then why order/create one when you purportedly have the one with PRINTS on it? Read GE’s and NBCs insolvent on my web site www.vectorpub.com and learn why they are so nervous. Ask yourself: Why is NBC bringing this subject up again when it was suppose to have been a dead issue for the media? I guess its not so dead—is it?

      The Post & Email read the “beat-the-birthers” excerpt and believes it was written as satire, propaganda, or a mixture of both.

      Dr. Garrow rejoined the conversation and said that the “fraud” because of the birth certificate must be stopped. He complimented Booth on her research into Hawaiian birth certificates and her book, “Memoirs of a Community Organizer.”

      Booth said that she became concerned when Obama’s account of his birth in Hawaii did not mesh with her knowledge of Kapiolani and other facts about Hawaii, where Booth spent most of her life before moving to Oklahoma some years ago.

      Booth said she wrote the book so that there would be “a record” of “everything that has happened.” “I have a lot of Doug Vogt’s information in it,” she said, referring to the evidence of fraud and forgery confirmed by the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse.

      In closing the program, Garrow said that more people “like us” are needed to elucidate the public about Obama’s fraud. He said that every time Obama speaks, he is lying.

      Volin reminded the listeners of the trip to Washington, DC planned for November 18 and 19 to deliver sheriff’s kits to members of Congress.

      - Source link. © 2013, The Post & Email. All rights reserved.


      View the complete Birther Report presentation at:

      http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/11...rtificate.html
      B. Steadman

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      • #4
        Free Republic is running a thread titled, 'Double Down': How Obama beat the birthers in 2012 (Barry "finds" souvenir BC w/footprint), which was started 11/7/2013 by 'Seizethecarp'

        The thread references the 11/4/2013 Today Books (NBC) article by Mark Halperin and John Heilemann - http://www.today.com/books/double-do...012-8C11511690

        View the complete Free Republic thread at:

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3088624/posts

        Excerpt:

        Obama was looking forward to spending the night at his house in Kenwood, on the city’s South Side—the redbrick Georgian Revival pile that he and Michelle and their daughters left behind when they took up residence in the White House. He arrived fairly late, after 10:00 p.m., but then stayed up even later, intrigued by some old boxes that had belonged to his late mother, Ann Dunham.

        Dunham had died seven years earlier, but Obama hadn’t sorted through all her things. Now, alone in his old house for just the third night since he’d become president, he started rummaging through the boxes, digging, digging, until suddenly he found it: a small, four-paneled paper booklet the world had never seen before. On the front was an ink drawing of Kapi‘olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, in Honolulu. On the back was a picture of a Hawaiian queen. On one inside page were his name, his mother’s name, and his date of birth; on the other were his infant footprints.

        The next morning, Marty Nesbitt came over to have breakfast with Obama. The CEO of an airport parking-lot company, Nesbitt was part of a tiny circle of Chicago friends on whom the president relied to keep him anchored in a reality outside the Washington funhouse. The two men had bonded playing pickup basketball two decades earlier; their relationship was still firmly rooted in sports, talking smack, and all around regular-guyness. After chatting for a while at the kitchen table, Obama went upstairs and came back down, wearing a cat-who-ate-a-whole-flock-of-canaries grin, waving the booklet in the air, and then placing it in front of Nesbitt.

        “Now, that’s some funny s__t,” Nesbitt said, and burst out laughing.


        Excerpts from Comments to the thread:

        To: Seizethecarp

        How did she give birth at Kapiolani without having her name appear on Kapiolani’s labor room log, to be seen when Neil Abercrombie’s investigators arrived there with a search warrant, according to what he told his friend Mike Evans?

        This is such ridiculous crap. The only reason they bother with these lies is because they know the media will never let the average joe know the evidence we already have which refutes these BS claims.

        20 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:27:22 PM by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)




        To: Venturer

        Where’s the birf certificate he wrote about in his autobiography? He said in that text that he was rummaging through old boxes and ran across it.

        Same story, new dates?

        29 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:41:32 PM by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)




        To: a fool in paradise

        It’s just another prefabricated lie.

        To think that the President would come to his home alone in Detroit and start rummaging through old boxes at ten o’clock at night and just happen to run across this is total BS. again with the peeing down your leg and saying it is raining.

        Of course if he looked for this tomorrow he wouldn’t be able to find it. Misplaced it.

        37 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 1:07:35 PM by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)




        To: Seizethecarp

        Let’s pretend everything in the excerpt is true, and Obama found this birth document, was crowing with pleasure, showed the document to Plouffe, etc. If the doc showed a different daddy, or no known daddy, or other factual inconsistencies with his birth narrative, Obama would know it was unusable. If unusable, he would not be crowing about finding it, or showing it to his cronies. If usable, he would have published it to the world. Ergo, the whole story is a lie.

        The excerpt cuts off without addressing the critical question: “What didn’t Obama release this find immediately and crush his foes?” I know the whole story is bs, but how does the book dance around this?

        42 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 1:20:23 PM by Chewbarkah




        To: Seizethecarp

        OK Ill bite. Now just for s**ts and grins, what say we compare the footprints on Barrys new “find” weith the footprints on Lucas Smiths Kenyan BC? Truth or Dare Hussein?

        52 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 2:31:03 PM by DMZFrank
        - (color emphasis added)



        To: Seizethecarp

        I have a copy of Obama’s BC with footprint, on my computer.

        It's from Kenya. Obtained the old fashioned way, bribery!

        It has been filed in court cases with depositions under threat of perjury. Why is it ignored? I can find no reason to PROVE it false.

        No hospital in Hawaii has a record of Obama being born there. He is a complete FRAUD.

        54 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:01:56 PM by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
        - (bold and color emphasis added)




        To: wideawake

        “(1) I do not believe for a second that Barack Obama was born overseas. The logistics are preposterous”

        Actually, the standard is “is it possible ?” YES or “can it be excluded ?” NO.

        Not only is it absolutely possible, it is very probable since Obama can not provide a legitimate birth certificate.

        55 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:06:56 PM by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)




        To: faucetman

        HI state registrar Alvin Onaka effectively confirmed that there is no legally-valid BC for Obama in Hawaii. He has obviously been using a BC from SOMEWHERE, all these years. If it wasn’t from Hawaii, where WAS it from? That is the question we need an answer to.

        There is a reason his passport had to be sanitized. There is a reason Neil Abercrombie told Mike Evans there was no BC for Obama in Hawaii. There is a reason the HDOH forged Virginia Sunahara’s death certificate and altered the BC#’s for Stig Waidelich, Virginia Sunahara, and Johanna Ah Nee. There is a reason that the HDOH started to claim they would not issue certified copies of long-forms EVEN AS VIDEO FOOTAGE WAS TAKEN OF THEM DOING JUST THAT, in a routine request at the HDOH office.

        That reason was made clear by Alvin Onaka’s legal response to AZ SOS Ken Bennett’s request for a letter of verification for Obama: There is no legally valid BC for Obama in Hawaii.

        58 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:31:17 PM by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)




        To: faucetman

        “Now, that’s some funny s__t,” Nesbitt said, and burst out laughing.

        If Nesbitt was looking at a Hawaiian BC would he laugh out load? Or would he laugh out load if Zippo showed him this...




        61 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:37:29 PM by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)



        To: GregNH

        One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang’awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bl.../2465278/posts

        At the time of her father’s death, Justice Ang’awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls’ high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

        The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta’s personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

        62 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:56:22 PM by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)




        To: justiceseeker93

        I knew that story stank by the end of the first paragraph, which ends in ANN DUNHAM.

        Her name wasn’t ANN. It was Stanley Ann. That’s how she introduced herself according to those who claimed to know her.

        The entry in the Polk for Honolulu for ANN S OABAMA wasn’t the Dunham daughter. The Dunhams shared the house with Stanley Armour’s employer, the Pratt family are also listed in the Polk at that address and the Pratt daughter told Maraniss she doesn’t remember a daughter of the Dunhams living there either pregnant or with a baby.

        ANN S OBAMA wasn’t Stanley Ann.

        That’s why the obots insist on referring to her as Ann. From that moment on, this ridiculous article collapses into Alice Through the Lookingglass territory.

        64 posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:12:38 PM by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)


        CONTINUED IN THE FOLLOWING REPLY
        Last edited by bsteadman; 11-08-2013, 03:53 PM.
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        • #5
          BARACK OBAMA MADE IN HAWAII (Inaugural Edition for VIMEO)
          from Gloria Borland


          http://vimeo.com/58641733

          4:38 minute mark in video - Photo of souvenir BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Birth Certificate. The image shows the back side of the certificate, which includes a picture of a Hawaiian Queen.
          B. Steadman

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          • #6
            CONTINUED FROM ABOVE

            To: wideawake

            None of the kids at my childrens school believe he was born in Hawaii. They all say Kenya. Thats funny right there. I don’t care who you are.
            - (bold, underline and color emphasis added)

            101 posted on Friday, November 08, 2013 8:25:39 AM by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)




            To: Nero Germanicus

            Why wasn’t Virginia Sunahara in the birth database when I requested her non-certified abbreviated BC?

            Bear in mind that the office worker did not look in a print-out of names to fulfill my request. The request had no birth year associated with it; to respond to this request the office worker had to look in the actual database, not a (now-proven)printed manipulation of the birth records which was called the “birth index” but included names from BC’s that are not legally valid. The birth “index” also includes multiple entries for individual persons. People who have distinctive names (like somebody, Jr) so it isn’t 2 different people each with their own entry. Either the hospitals filled out 2 different long-forms for those people - each with a distinctive BC# - or else there are more names on that list than there are BC#’s or actual individual people.

            So there are a lot of EXTRAS on the printed-out list. We know that for a fact. But in spite of all the extras who WERE on that list, Virginia Sunahara was not IN THE DATABASE when I asked about her. Her brother has received a certified copy of her abbreviated BC so we know they had a birth record for her. Why was her name voided from the database at the point that I queried?

            Also please realize that I asked for TWO names. I asked for the non-certified abbreviated BC for either Virginia or Tomiyo Sunahara (based on the name that was in the death announcement). So this wasn’t a case where the worker mistyped a single name while querying the database. She would have typed in Sunahara and looked at all those names to see if there was a Tomiyo or a Virginia.

            So far no Obot has been willing to address this. By not dealing with it they want it to go away. It won’t. Since you brought up the anomalous, manipulated, inaccurate “birth index”, you need to address this.

            102 posted on Friday, November 08, 2013 8:36:32 AM by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)




            To: butterdezillion; paythefiddler; LucyT; null and void; rolling_stone; bitt; Nachum; Venturer; ...

            Audio: Team Arpaio Obtained Hard Document Evidence; Bigger Than Birth Certificate

            As reported here Carl Gallups of Freedom Friday gave an update in the investigation into Obama’s forged birth certificate and forged selective service registration. Gallups just gave another update on his radio show reiterating the investigation has not gone silent or stopped. He says it has gotten deeper and darker than ever imagined saying it is now much bigger than the birth certificate. He says the implications are astounding and could be history changing.

            Carl Gallups further reports that Team Arpaio obtained a handful of new evidence and hard document evidence.

            AUDIO HERE:

            http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/11...-evidence.html

            125 posted on Friday, November 08, 2013 7:26:03 PM by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)




            To: Hotlanta Mike

            "He says the implications are astounding and could be history changing."

            I've listened to a number of Gallups' broadcasts on this topic, and I can't recall him being as overwrought as he sounded this time around (I was listening as much to his tonal quality/inflection as much as the words) during this segment. It may just begin raining shoes before much longer.h

            I'm not sure what the ultimate purpose for it is, but I now semi-suspect that "Obama" was intended to eventually be found out all along. As in, feed them enough rope, and. . .

            Interesting times. Like, the Chinese curse variety.

            130 posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:31:55 AM by Flotsam_Jetsome (It's all rigged.)




            To: Hotlanta Mike; butterdezillion; paythefiddler; LucyT; null and void; rolling_stone; bitt; Nachum; ..

            The United States of America have ground to a screeching halt over the past 6 years.... economically, constitutiopnally, and morally.

            Obama is just the primary symptom of a massive cognitive dissonance. He is and he isn't. Of course the documents are frauds ... and that's whether or not the info on them is accurate or not. The documents are not legally what they purport to be.

            However, he is the sitting POTUS, and can only be removed by Congress ... who happen to be the people who approved him in office in the first place through their role in the Electoral College, even though the issues were on the table at the time..

            Sheriff Joe and the Posse out in Arizona are 100% correct and their evidence of fraud is incontrovertible. But, there's nowhere to bring it.

            We have lived ... and will continue to live through an ongoing coup ... and will continue to suffer the consequences until and unless Congress and the Governors and legislatures of the states take action.

            Does it look to any of us as though that may happen? Every nation in this hemisphere has suffered froom a succession of brutal civil wars, internal strife, insurrection, and brutal repression. The US and Canada are blessed by history in that the battles were infrequent and long ago.

            Perhaps a century and a half of peace is all we are going to get. Abraham Lincoln said, "... no nation can endure half-slave and half free." It is unlikely that this nation can survive when more than half the voters are stupid and/or are willing to trade freedom for imagined benefits to be paid for by the other half.

            132 posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:25:12 PM by Kenny Bunk (OK, Obama be bad. Now where's OUR Program, Plan, and Leader?)




            To: Kenny Bunk

            It is unlikely that this nation can survive when more than half the voters are stupid and/or are willing to trade freedom for imagined benefits to be paid for by the other half.

            It is clear the struggle is between those who recognize that individual responsibility is essential to freedom, those who wish to determine their own future and that of their descendants – and those enchanted by a totalitarian form of federal government that appears to provide all needs and unlimited “rights”, along with those who believe they will be the gifted elite of such a government.

            As you indicate, the recent presidential election suggests we are are now out-numbered and have surpassed the tipping point, at least in the conventional sense. The good news, however, is that the political map of the U.S. is yet colored predominately "red".

            138 posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 11:07:22 PM by frog in a pot (We are all "frogs in a pot". How and when will we real Americans jump out?)




            To: Yaelle

            One more thought on Obama’s Kenyan birth. The second time the Kenyan Parliament acknowledged his Kenyan birth, they also applauded US voters for knowingly electing a foreign/Kenyan-born President. It is the sheer matter-of-factness of the statement that stands out most. I.e.: they do not treat Obama’s Kenyan birth as remotely questionable or controversial. To them, it is such a commonplace & established FACT that they cannot imagine Americans do not know about it. Therefore they give us props for *knowingly* electing a foreign/Kenyan-born POTUS. Interesting, to say the least.

            149 posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:09:11 PM by Fantasywriter
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            • #7
              Bruce, thank you for posting this thread!

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