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Arizona v Hawaii: Eligibility Researcher Butterdezillion Details Why Hawaii Is Stalling Verification Of Obama's Composited Birth Certificate(s)
Birther Report
5/20/2012
Excerpt:
By Butterdezillion @ Free Republic
"Here’s what’s going on, from a post I posted elsewhere, at [Free Republic here]. There are other comments on that thread that make clear what else the HDOH has done, and another comment that makes clear their predicament (and why they’re trying to stall on this) is at [Free Republic here]. (and I apologize in advance for the formatting not working. You can see it better at my blog [Butterdezillion's Blog] if the formatting drives you nuts).
Anyway, here’s what’s going on with the HDOH’s particular claim about what Bennett has to prove:
Once again Hawaii is totally ignoring/misinterpreting their own laws, as Ken Bennett knows full well. This is what HRS 338-18 says about a letter of verification (found at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur..._0338-0018.htm ):
“(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:
(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes. [L 1949, c 327, §22; RL 1955, §57-21; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; am L 1967, c 30, §2; HRS §338-18; am L 1977, c 118, §1; am L 1991, c 190, §1; am L 1997, c 305, §5; am L 2001, c 246, §2]”
The HDOH is pretending that Bennett is asking for this under (2) above, but he is clearly asking for it under (3). It is the normal course of operations for the SOS’s office to receive an application for placement on the ballot, and AZ’s application process requires that the candidate be a “natural born US citizen”. Obama has applied to be on the ballot, and Bennett is seeking confirmation of “information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application”. Obama’s AZ application claims he is eligible to be President and that is related to what is actually contained on Obama’s birth record.
The HDOH is trying to stall again. I’ve been through this rat-race with them dozens of times. Unfortunately for them, Bennett has set the default at DENIAL of placement on the ballot. IOW, if the HDOH stalls they’re only making it certain that Obama will not be allowed on the ballot.
I can’t wait for the HDOH to declare Bennett a “vexatious requestor” who they thus don’t have to answer. lol. With any luck, the HDOH will thoroughly piss him off, just by being the jerks we all already know them to be. lol"
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View the complete Birther Report presentation at:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogs...esearcher.html
Birther Report
5/20/2012
Excerpt:
By Butterdezillion @ Free Republic
"Here’s what’s going on, from a post I posted elsewhere, at [Free Republic here]. There are other comments on that thread that make clear what else the HDOH has done, and another comment that makes clear their predicament (and why they’re trying to stall on this) is at [Free Republic here]. (and I apologize in advance for the formatting not working. You can see it better at my blog [Butterdezillion's Blog] if the formatting drives you nuts).
Anyway, here’s what’s going on with the HDOH’s particular claim about what Bennett has to prove:
Once again Hawaii is totally ignoring/misinterpreting their own laws, as Ken Bennett knows full well. This is what HRS 338-18 says about a letter of verification (found at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur..._0338-0018.htm ):
“(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:
(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes. [L 1949, c 327, §22; RL 1955, §57-21; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; am L 1967, c 30, §2; HRS §338-18; am L 1977, c 118, §1; am L 1991, c 190, §1; am L 1997, c 305, §5; am L 2001, c 246, §2]”
The HDOH is pretending that Bennett is asking for this under (2) above, but he is clearly asking for it under (3). It is the normal course of operations for the SOS’s office to receive an application for placement on the ballot, and AZ’s application process requires that the candidate be a “natural born US citizen”. Obama has applied to be on the ballot, and Bennett is seeking confirmation of “information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application”. Obama’s AZ application claims he is eligible to be President and that is related to what is actually contained on Obama’s birth record.
The HDOH is trying to stall again. I’ve been through this rat-race with them dozens of times. Unfortunately for them, Bennett has set the default at DENIAL of placement on the ballot. IOW, if the HDOH stalls they’re only making it certain that Obama will not be allowed on the ballot.
I can’t wait for the HDOH to declare Bennett a “vexatious requestor” who they thus don’t have to answer. lol. With any luck, the HDOH will thoroughly piss him off, just by being the jerks we all already know them to be. lol"
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View the complete Birther Report presentation at:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogs...esearcher.html