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    Was Obama Once an Indonesian Citizen? Here’s What We Found When We Went There Looking

    The Blaze

    Charles C. Johnson
    11/5/2012

    Excerpt:

    As part of our series on President Obama’s education and past, we interviewed Barack Obama’s first ever principal, Father Bart Janssen. Our freelance correspondent, Charles C. Johnson, went all the way to Indonesia to find out more about Obama’s past.

    ​Enrollment documents viewed by TheBlaze confirm that a young Barack Obama was listed as an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim on school registration in the 1960s. And while the document has been reported on before, albeit lightly, TheBlaze has compiled the most complete view thus far of the document and the circumstances surrounding it – including an interview with the president’s first-ever principal while he was in Indonesia.

    TheBlaze repeatedly photographed the document in the office of the current headmaster of Santo Fransiskus Assisis, a Catholic school that Obama attended from January 1968 to December 1970 in Jakarta. The record shows that Obama (or his parents) – at least for the period of his life – claimed to be an Indonesian citizen, that he took the last name Soetoro (the last name of his step-father, Lolo), that his religion was listed as Islam, and that he was born in Honolulu.

    Fastforward: Why the School Obama Attended After St. Fransiskus Is Just as Important

    While Obama’s time at Santo Fransiskus is important (and we’ll explore it in more detail shortly), it’s just as crucial to fastforward to when Obama left the school.

    According to records at Santo Fransiskus Assisis, Obama left after 1970 because his family moved. That move was due to Lolo leaving Dinas Topografi, a mapmaking survey company that contracted with the Indonesian army—which is listed in the document we viewed—to join Union Oil where he became a well-connected government liaison officer.

    That job came with perks, among them access to some of the best schools for young Barry Soetoro. That’s evident by the young Obama attending Besuki School, one of the three best public schools in Indonesia, after leaving St. Fransiskus. Besuki School is the sort of place the connected send their children when they are not already sending them to the pricy international school. (This is an important detail because once Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, got a job working for the Ford Foundation in 1980, and after she had divorced Lolo Soetoro, she began sending her daughter, Maya, to Jakarta International School.)

    In a taped interview in Indonesian and subsequent email with Akhmad Solikhin, Besuki’s current principal, he told my Indonesian translator and me that, other than Obama, there has only been one non-Indonesian at the school—a Dutch student. That’s not surprising considering Besuki School, founded in 1934, was formerly Carpentier Alting Stichting Nassau School — a school run and controlled by the Dutch for the Dutch colonialists and the Indonesian elite. In 1962 — before Obama attended in 1970 — it was taken over by the Indonesian government. Besuki was then and is now a prestigious place where potential students sit on waitlists. In fact, in 2007 Besuki began using a mandatory admissions test to try and cut down on the number of Indonesian children trying to get in.

    Why is this all important? Because given that history, it doesn’t seem likely that the school would have wasted one of their prized seats on a student not claiming to be Indonesian, especially when it was the sort of place that educated the children of government officials and the well-to-do.

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    View the complete article at:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/was-...there-looking/
    Last edited by bsteadman; 11-05-2012, 11:24 PM.
    B. Steadman

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    Good information Bruce . This is proof positive that obummer was declared a citizen of Indonesiua , When he moved to
    Hawai ' i he was never naturalized as a citizen of AMERICA , so he is truly an illegal alien here .

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      Originally posted by AMERICAN ADVOCATE View Post
      This is proof positive that obummer was declared a citizen of Indonesia. When he moved to
      Hawai ' i, he was never naturalized as a citizen of AMERICA, so he is truly an illegal alien here.
      MAK,

      As with virtually EVERYTHING else related to Obama's history, it's 'complicated and confusing'!

      I don't think, based on the information given in the article, that we can conclude that he is, "truly an illegal alien here". However, I am certainly not claiming to be an expert on the topic.

      First, I don't think we can even conclude that this article is "proof positive" that he was declared a citizen of Indonesia. That is: Maybe he was declared an Indonesian Citizen, or maybe he wasn't! The articles main points are summarized in the following quote:

      Here’s what we know:

      1. The document for the first-ever school Obama attended in Indonesia lists him as an Indonesian citizen (born in Hawaii) and a Muslim.
      2. Those claims would have benefited a young Obama as he continued his schooling.
      3. The Catholic priest who started the school, however, says it was not odd to lie about such things.
      4. We know that Obama and his family have a history of mistruths.
      5. But it’s also not far-fetched to consider that Obama’s step-father, Lolo, could have adopted him – thus making him an Indonesian citizen as a young boy.
      6. Even if he was adopted and was an Indonesian citizen at one time, though, it would not have affected his status as a U.S. citizen per the Supreme Court.


      Also, based on Conclusion #6 above, IF Obama was an ordinary American citizen prior to moving, at age 6, with his mother to Indonesia, he would have retained this American citizenship. If he did indeed become a citizen of Indonesia as a child, this would simply have made him a 'dual citizen' of both the U.S.A. and Indonesia at that time.

      The big question I have is: WAS OBAMA CONSIDERED LEGALLY TO BE EVEN AN ORDINARY AMERICAN CITIZEN AT BIRTH?

      We know for sure, Obama was actually born at the CPGH in Mombasa, Kenya on August 4, 1961 and NOT in Hawaii as he claims!

      There are MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS surrounding his Hawaiian birth certificate. A forged, computer-generated LFBC was posted for him on the official White House website on April 27, 2011. Thus, does a VALID, LEGAL BIRTH-RELATED DOCUMENT even exist for him in Hawaii? We just don't know!

      Furthermore, there is no pubic record that his mother every completed the proper paperwork to have him legally declared a born-abroad American Citizen.

      I think there is a definite possibility that Obama is an illegal alien, but IMO there are just too many unanswered questions to make a definitive statement on the matter.

      Of course, none of the above relates to his probable illegal status as POTUS, which requires him meeting the much higher '1875 Minor v Happersett' NBC standard.
      Last edited by bsteadman; 11-06-2012, 07:57 PM.
      B. Steadman

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