Was it stolen? -- Dave in Fla's Poll Analysis

[bsteadman]

Was it Stolen?

Dave in Fla's Poll Analysis
Dave
11/8/2012

I hate going down a birther road, but yes I believe the election was stolen, and the implications of that are very bad.

First of all, Obama received 10 million less votes than he did in 2008. The part that is unbelievable is that Romney received 3 million less votes than McCain. At the end of the day, Obama won in the 4 critical swing states by 500,000 votes.

But is is worse than that. We can look at who voted. By examining the number of Independents and their preference shift among actual voters, we know that 5 million Independents changed their votes from Obama to Romney. So Romney started the day 2.5 million votes ahead of where McCain was in 2008.

This means that 5.5 million Republican voters are not accounted for.

They didn't show up at the polls, or their votes were not counted. We know now that no subgroup of the coalition decided to sit out. So the current attempts to blame the SoCons are stupid. All of our groups showed up to vote at the rates they did in 2008. For this to be true over 10% of Republicans needed to decide not to vote this year, who did vote in 2008.

Does that make any sense?

In fact, it is even worse, we know for a fact that heavy GOP counties were swamped all day. We watched all day as Pasco County Florida was showing huge increases in GOP voters over the 2008 numbers.

In Virgina, with 69% of the precincts in, Romney held a 6% lead. Yet once a small number of counties reported, that lead disappeared.

If the vote drop off occurred, it occurred in a very small number of counties. It was not visible nationwide.

I contend that you can not get a 10% drop off in GOP turnout without it being noticeable during the GOTV effort, measures of enthusiasm in polling, or visibly lower turnout in GOP leaning precincts.

I know you don't want to believe such a thing is possible. You don't want to think that the Obama campaign would engage in such blatant election fraud. But these are the same people who ran Fast and Furious without regard for the cost in human lives, turned off their credit card verification system to allow fraudulent donations, and allowed CIA operative in Libya to die because it was politically inconvenient. Do you really think that massive election fraud is something they wouldn't do?

If this is true, then we have some hard things to consider.

First of all, we are now needlessly fracturing our coalition pointing fingers at people for not voting. Second, we are making an assumption about the make up of the American public that is not true. We are going to modify our party and message to appeal to a group of individuals who do not represent the majority of the population.

Most difficult to believe is that we are living in Venezuela where our elections are merely for show, and the people in charge of the Governments decide who will win elections. We become wards of the State, which is the aim of those who stole this election.

So how can this be proved?

I am going to start by looking at a few key counties in Florida. What I want to see is the voter registration numbers by party, and then compare them to the actual votes received. Theoretically, if this were to be done for all counties in Florida, we could see where the fraud occurred. Comparing the votes Romney received to the strike lists would show that in specific counties Romney received something like 50% of the Republican vote (picking a number out of the air) while we know that nationwide he received 95% of the Republican vote. To really get to the answer, we would need to get the registration books, which might be possible through Freedom of Information act. Those show who actually voted, by name, and their party.

The media will not pursue this. This will take citizen journalists working in every state.

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And I think I'm done with it all

Dave in Fla's Poll Analysis
Dave
11/9/2012

Excerpt:

I didn't sleep again last night, and it is time for me to move on emotionally.

Having looked at Florida I think I know what happened, and it probably happened nationwide. I do not think it was massive vote fraud. There was definitely fraud in Miami-Dade which turned Florida to Obama. But there is a reason we say "win beyond the margin of fraud". We didn't win by enough. This allowed the votes of a single large Democrat county to manipulate the vote totals enough to swing the election. I suspect this occurred in all the rest of the swing states. For future reference, if a Republican wants to win in Florida, he needs to win by over 500,000.

So what went wrong? Romney turned out enough votes in every county to exceed McCain's numbers. But he didn't exceed by enough. Whether or not this was a failure of the ORCA program, or a failure of the campaign, I can't tell you. I don't think it matters.

We don't have enough votes to win a national election, and I don't think we ever will. The Democrats have their core votes who they have proven able to turnout as needed in an election. Our core votes appear to be barely enough to match them, but not by enough. And not enough to overcome election tricks and fraud to which they have no moral objection, but we do.

I actually believe that the Rasmussen month party ID poll is correct. Republican identification is 4 points higher than Democrat identification. The problem is that they have enough certain voters to produce a D+6 electorate. This is now the second election that it has occurred. Republicans can only get about 33% of the electorate to the polls, the rest of us don't vote.

There is no specific block of voters that sat out. SoCans, FiCons, and Hawks all turned out at expected levels. But they aren't enough.

The problem is the less engaged low information voters. They simply won't vote for Republicans. The culture and the media have made it such that our beliefs and values are mocked and ridiculed, and that matters. These voters are shaping their political opinions by watching The Daily Show. Principled positions that are important to members of our coalition are considered worthy of contempt. Gay marriage and antisemitism are now the cultural norms, leading us to loss of freedom and a more dangerous world.

I fully expect that with this loss the Republican party will now begin to pander to client groups in attempts to woo them into voting for us. This will be ultimately futile. It will shatter the coalition and enable the Democrats to further consolidate their voting blocks with these groups. The media and the culture are our enemy, and we can't win. We have no way of making free market capitalism attractive to the Honey BooBoos of the country. Not to mention principles positions on the sanctity of life.

On the pro-life position, we have lost. Infanticide is now considered a cultural norm, and anyone who believes that the brutal mutilation and murder of an unborn infant in the womb is just a neanderthal who doesn't understand women's health issues. Again the culture has driven us to this point. Young women under 40 will actually vote to keep their right to murder the child of an unplanned pregnancy over being employed.

At the end of the day, we just aren't hip and cool. The Jay-Zs and Kelly Clarksons of the world are determining who the rest of those voters will vote for. It isn't going to be us.

So now I am going to disengage and try to live my life in some level of comfort. I feel an acute sense of betrayal by my fellow citizens. Since there is no place else to go, I will have to try and hunker down into a shell and try to drown out the noise. If the American people prove at some point in the future that they are willing to take up the mantel of the principles they were gifted, then perhaps I will reengage. But I doubt they will.

It is worth remembering that Jeffersonian theory that the citizens own the State, may be the core principle of our founding, but it is not typical in the history of mankind. Statist ownership and control of the citizens is the normal way human governments have been established, either through monarchies, tyrannies, or bureaucracies. It is not surprising that our country will slowly march toward Statism. It is the typical choice, and can be seen in the voting choices in France and the UK.
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