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INSIDER vs INSIDER: “STOLEN – STOLEN – STOLEN…”
Part One
The Ulsterman Report
Ulsterman
12/5/2012
Excerpt:
“That election was TAKEN from the American people. I don’t care what you have to say on that…I’ve been around you know? I’ve seen a few things you know? And this…this election was STOLEN. STOLEN. STOLEN. I’ll go to my grave knowin’ that… “ -WHI
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So it has been several weeks now since Barack Obama secured a second term as President of the United States by defeating Mitt Romney. Very soon after that defeat, following some two years of dedication toward making Obama a “one and done” president, White House Insider retreated from our regular communications, instead passing me off to another we call Republican Insider, a person whose goal it is to rebuild the Republican Party after years of that political party neglecting its own conservative principles and the desires of its supporters. Following some initial interviews with RI, he indicated he was receiving word back from WHI of their unhappiness with our interviews – that basically, we “weren’t getting it right”, and suggested all of us schedule time to sit down together to have a REAL discussion about the REAL issues now facing America and its people. I quickly agreed. So too did RI. Following the now familiar pattern that is their own often volatile nature, WHI then backed away from the very proposal they had made just days earlier. Then, just as quickly as they had refused, they once again agreed. It is unclear if that sudden agreement came entirely on their own, or at the urging of someone else. Regardless, here now is that conversation between these two individuals, with myself attempting to act (poorly) as moderator – one who remains optimistic that the future of the country can be saved, and the other who is increasingly certain it’s “done and done” – and that generations to follow will likely never know the American promise that has now, according to them, all but been extinguished.
I wish to extend my sincere gratitude to both individuals. This conversation more than lived up to my own expectations even if at times keeping it from descending into outright conflict proved difficult. There are some hard truths here – and certainly much that some readers will not wish to hear. What is certain now is that no easy fix is before us – America is in peril, and the only thing that matters is how we respond to that peril. Do we give up? Or do we continue to fight? -UM
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PART ONE:
UM: Thank you both for meeting here today. Much appreciated.
RI: I want to thank –deleted- for coming up with the idea in the first place! I think this is a great idea…give people the opportunity to really get a taste of the kinds of conversations being had inside the party right now. There’s a lot of talking…a lot of soul-searching. So why not share that in this kind of…forum. So thank you too.
WHI: People are talking huh? Republicans are talking? Well…ain’t that just…soul searching? Really? Is that what it is? That’s what’s goin’ on now huh?
RI: Yes – in many ways, absolutely. There are some new voices finally having a chance to speak up. That’s long overdue.
WHI: What the f-ck are you on about? “New voices”? Really? Didn’t John-boy just push some of those voices off the table? (Note: WHI made this remark a day BEFORE the story came out in the media) He’s kissing the ass of this Obama White House every chance he gets. F-ck him. F-ck you. F-ck your bullsh-t “soul searching” nonsense. Buncha pig sh-t all of it.
(Long Pause)
UM: Ok…that was…not the start I was hoping for here. Perhaps—-
RI: It’s fine! Really! What they are saying is what a lot of people are feeling right now. That’s fine. Say it! I have no problem hearing that right now. Look…ummm…this election was….it was a tough one. Let’s not try and make it out to be better than it is. I get that. I really do. The party…it ran…ummm…ran an ok campaign when it needed to be a great campaign. It picked an ok candidate when it needed to pick….pick a great candidate. And so we lost. The Republican Party is…it’s adrift right now. That’s not necessarily a bad thing…gives us a chance to…people are shaken up. So hopefully that leads to them waking up. And from there…ummm…we can rebuild.
UM: What candidate would have been—-
WHI: —NO. I’m cutting in here. Didn’t come here to listen to him…or listen to you. Came here to speak my mind. That’s what you said you wanted. So he can shut up. You both can shut up and listen. I’ve been doin’ this for longer than…hell of a lot longer than him. I’ve seen good and I’ve seen bad. This last election? It…haven’t seen THAT.
You are talking about we should have done this? Should have done that? F-ck you. And I mean every letter of that son. F-ck YOU. That election was TAKEN from the American people. I don’t care what you have to say on that…I’ve been around you know? I’ve seen a few things you know? And this…this election was STOLEN. STOLEN. STOLEN. I’ll go to my grave knowin’ that… A precinct here. County there. BAM! They got their swing states. The numbers…Election Night…no WAY those numbers lined up. NO F-CKING WAY. So you can try and pour perfume over that pile of sh-t election, but it still smells like sh-t. And there’s a whole lot of us who smell it, and we ain’t all sufferin’ some…some kind of mass hysteria on this one.
UM: (Speaking to RI) So what about that? There is a lot of evidence that at least suggests the possibility Obama stole the election. You agree with that, right?
RI: We keep walking back over this grave and the result will always be the same on this. The truth will stay buried, one way or the other. Could there have been some…theft? Or irregularities? Sure. I’ll say there were, like any election. Certainly any national election. But…the fact remains…the real fact remains…voter turnout was not enough on the Republican side. Obama’s turnout was considerably less in 2012 than 2008 but we still lost. Not because…ummm…not entirely because of possible fraud…but more likely because a whole lot of voters just…either didn’t vote or in the end…they voted for Obama.
(Pause)…Let me say it this way. Now…both of you would agree that ummm…a whole lot of money came into the Romney campaign, right? A whole lot of money from some very powerful people, groups…organizations…right?
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View the complete article at:
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/1...stolen-stolen/
Part One
The Ulsterman Report
Ulsterman
12/5/2012
Excerpt:
“That election was TAKEN from the American people. I don’t care what you have to say on that…I’ve been around you know? I’ve seen a few things you know? And this…this election was STOLEN. STOLEN. STOLEN. I’ll go to my grave knowin’ that… “ -WHI
________________________________
So it has been several weeks now since Barack Obama secured a second term as President of the United States by defeating Mitt Romney. Very soon after that defeat, following some two years of dedication toward making Obama a “one and done” president, White House Insider retreated from our regular communications, instead passing me off to another we call Republican Insider, a person whose goal it is to rebuild the Republican Party after years of that political party neglecting its own conservative principles and the desires of its supporters. Following some initial interviews with RI, he indicated he was receiving word back from WHI of their unhappiness with our interviews – that basically, we “weren’t getting it right”, and suggested all of us schedule time to sit down together to have a REAL discussion about the REAL issues now facing America and its people. I quickly agreed. So too did RI. Following the now familiar pattern that is their own often volatile nature, WHI then backed away from the very proposal they had made just days earlier. Then, just as quickly as they had refused, they once again agreed. It is unclear if that sudden agreement came entirely on their own, or at the urging of someone else. Regardless, here now is that conversation between these two individuals, with myself attempting to act (poorly) as moderator – one who remains optimistic that the future of the country can be saved, and the other who is increasingly certain it’s “done and done” – and that generations to follow will likely never know the American promise that has now, according to them, all but been extinguished.
I wish to extend my sincere gratitude to both individuals. This conversation more than lived up to my own expectations even if at times keeping it from descending into outright conflict proved difficult. There are some hard truths here – and certainly much that some readers will not wish to hear. What is certain now is that no easy fix is before us – America is in peril, and the only thing that matters is how we respond to that peril. Do we give up? Or do we continue to fight? -UM
________________________
PART ONE:
UM: Thank you both for meeting here today. Much appreciated.
RI: I want to thank –deleted- for coming up with the idea in the first place! I think this is a great idea…give people the opportunity to really get a taste of the kinds of conversations being had inside the party right now. There’s a lot of talking…a lot of soul-searching. So why not share that in this kind of…forum. So thank you too.
WHI: People are talking huh? Republicans are talking? Well…ain’t that just…soul searching? Really? Is that what it is? That’s what’s goin’ on now huh?
RI: Yes – in many ways, absolutely. There are some new voices finally having a chance to speak up. That’s long overdue.
WHI: What the f-ck are you on about? “New voices”? Really? Didn’t John-boy just push some of those voices off the table? (Note: WHI made this remark a day BEFORE the story came out in the media) He’s kissing the ass of this Obama White House every chance he gets. F-ck him. F-ck you. F-ck your bullsh-t “soul searching” nonsense. Buncha pig sh-t all of it.
(Long Pause)
UM: Ok…that was…not the start I was hoping for here. Perhaps—-
RI: It’s fine! Really! What they are saying is what a lot of people are feeling right now. That’s fine. Say it! I have no problem hearing that right now. Look…ummm…this election was….it was a tough one. Let’s not try and make it out to be better than it is. I get that. I really do. The party…it ran…ummm…ran an ok campaign when it needed to be a great campaign. It picked an ok candidate when it needed to pick….pick a great candidate. And so we lost. The Republican Party is…it’s adrift right now. That’s not necessarily a bad thing…gives us a chance to…people are shaken up. So hopefully that leads to them waking up. And from there…ummm…we can rebuild.
UM: What candidate would have been—-
WHI: —NO. I’m cutting in here. Didn’t come here to listen to him…or listen to you. Came here to speak my mind. That’s what you said you wanted. So he can shut up. You both can shut up and listen. I’ve been doin’ this for longer than…hell of a lot longer than him. I’ve seen good and I’ve seen bad. This last election? It…haven’t seen THAT.
You are talking about we should have done this? Should have done that? F-ck you. And I mean every letter of that son. F-ck YOU. That election was TAKEN from the American people. I don’t care what you have to say on that…I’ve been around you know? I’ve seen a few things you know? And this…this election was STOLEN. STOLEN. STOLEN. I’ll go to my grave knowin’ that… A precinct here. County there. BAM! They got their swing states. The numbers…Election Night…no WAY those numbers lined up. NO F-CKING WAY. So you can try and pour perfume over that pile of sh-t election, but it still smells like sh-t. And there’s a whole lot of us who smell it, and we ain’t all sufferin’ some…some kind of mass hysteria on this one.
UM: (Speaking to RI) So what about that? There is a lot of evidence that at least suggests the possibility Obama stole the election. You agree with that, right?
RI: We keep walking back over this grave and the result will always be the same on this. The truth will stay buried, one way or the other. Could there have been some…theft? Or irregularities? Sure. I’ll say there were, like any election. Certainly any national election. But…the fact remains…the real fact remains…voter turnout was not enough on the Republican side. Obama’s turnout was considerably less in 2012 than 2008 but we still lost. Not because…ummm…not entirely because of possible fraud…but more likely because a whole lot of voters just…either didn’t vote or in the end…they voted for Obama.
(Pause)…Let me say it this way. Now…both of you would agree that ummm…a whole lot of money came into the Romney campaign, right? A whole lot of money from some very powerful people, groups…organizations…right?
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View the complete article at:
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/1...stolen-stolen/
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