The government of Kenya has officially asked that the charge of treason be added to their request for my extradition to Kenya. How can I be charged with treason when I am not, and never have been, a citizen of Kenya?
I’m not entirely sure but what I have ascertained is that there are other countries in which a person can be charged with, and found guilty of, treason even if they are not a citizen of that country.
Two such countries, and there are likely others but I have not yet had sufficient time to conduct a comprehensive search, are:
1. United States of America
2. Germany
Germany will be discussed later, hopefully sometime in the next few days, and today’s report we will cover the United States of America.
Carlisle v. United States, 83 U.S. 147 (1872)
The following has been truncated and readers are implored and advised to read the entire decision which can be found online be searching for the above referenced US Supreme Court decision.
This was an appeal from the Court of Claims. The claimants there were subjects of the Queen of Great Britain, but had been residents within the United States prior to the war of the rebellion, and during its continuance. In 1864 they were the owners of sixty-five bales of cotton stored on a plantation in Alabama. This cotton was seized during that year by naval officers of the United States and turned over to an agent of the Treasury Department, by whom the cotton was sold and the proceeds paid into the treasury.
The action was brought in the Court of Claims under the act of Congress of March 12th, 1863, known as the Captured and Abandoned Property Act, to recover these proceeds.
The court found that the claimants were the owners of the cotton, and that it was seized and sold as stated, and that the net proceeds, amounting to $43,232, were paid into the treasury.
The court also found that the government of Great Britain accords to citizens of the United States the right to prosecute claims against that government in its own courts; but that the claimants were engaged, in 1862, in manufacturing saltpetre in Alabama, and selling that article to the Confederate States, and that they thus gave aid and comfort to the rebellion, and for that reason were not entitled to recover the proceeds of the cotton seized. Their petition was accordingly dismissed. The facts connected with the manufacture and sale of the saltpetre are thus stated by the court in its findings:
‘From having, in 1860 and 1861, been engaged in the business of railroad contractors, they began in December, 1861, the manufacture of saltpetre at Santa Cave, Alabama, and continued engaged therein until the following April, when, owing to the presence of United States troops in the vicinity, they left the cave, and remained absent therefrom until the following October, when, immediately after the evacuation of Huntsville, Alabama, by the United States forces, they resumed work in making saltpetre at said cave, and continued it about two months. Their right to make saltpetre there was under a contract of lease between the owners of the cave and other parties, which had been transferred to the claimants, by whom it was, in May, 1863, sold and transferred to the so-called ‘Confederate States of America’ for $34,600. On the 28th of March, 1862, the claimants sold to the said Confederate States of America 2480 lbs. of saltpetre, at 75 cents per pound, in all $1860, and received payment therefor at Richmond, Virginia, on the 27th of June, 1862, from a rebel captain of artillery; and on the 30th of November, 1862, they sold to the said ‘Confederate States’ 4209 lbs. of nitre, at 75 cents per pound, in all $3156.75, and in the bill of the same, which the claimants receipted, it was expressed that the said nitre was ‘for manufacture of gunpowder;’ and the amount of said bill was paid at Larkinsville, Alabama, on the 24th of December, 1862, by the rebel ‘superintendent of nitre and mining district No. 9;’ and the claimants hired to the said ‘Confederate States’ wagons to transport the said nitre from Santa Cave to Rome, Georgia.’
The circumstances attending the manufacture and sale of the saltpetre, as disclosed in the findings of the court, plainly show that the claimants knew that the saltpetre was to be used by the Confederates in the manufacture of gunpowder for the prosecution of the war of the rebellion, and there is little doubt that the sale was made in order to aid the Confederates in accomplishing their treasonable purposes. By thus furnishing materials for the prosecution of the war whilst they were domiciled in the country, knowing the uses to which the materials were to be applied, the claimants became participators in the treason of the Confederates equally as if they had been original conspirators with them. The Court of Claims, therefore, did not err in its conclusion that the act of the claimants in selling the saltpetre to the Confederates, under these circumstances, was an act of aid and comfort to the rebellion. We have already held in Hanauer v. Doane,1 and we repeat and reaffirm what we there said, that ‘he who, being bound by his allegiance to a government, sells goods to the agent of an armed combination to overthrow that government, knowing that the purchaser buys them for that treasonable purpose, is himself guilty of treason or a misprision thereof. He voluntarily aids the treason. He cannot be permitted to stand on the nice metaphysical distinction that, although he knows that the purchaser buys the goods for the purpose of aiding the rebellion, he does not sell them for that purpose. The consequences of his acts are too serious and enormous to admit of such a plea. He must be taken to intend the consequences of his own voluntary act.
‘The rights of sovereignty,’ says Wildman, in his Institutes on International Law,7 ‘extend to all persons and things not privileged that are within the territory. They extend to all strangers therein, not only to those who are naturalized and to those who are domiciled therein, having taken up their abode with the intention of permanent residence, but also to those whose residence is transitory. All strangers are under the protection of the sovereign while they are within his territories, and owe a temporary allegiance in return for that protection.’
‘The rights of sovereignty,’ says Wildman, in his Institutes on International Law,7 ‘extend to all persons and things not privileged that are within the territory. They extend to all strangers therein, not only to those who are naturalized and to those who are domiciled therein, having taken up their abode with the intention of permanent residence, but also to those whose residence is transitory. All strangers are under the protection of the sovereign while they are within his territories, and owe a temporary allegiance in return for that protection.’
By allegiance is meant the obligation of fidelity and obedience which the individual owes to the government under which he lives, or to his sovereign in return for the protection he receives. It may be an absolute and permanent obligation, or it may be a qualified and temporary one. The citizen or subject owes an absolute and permanent allegiance to his government or sovereign, or at least until, by some open and distinct act, he renounces it and becomes a citizen or subject of another government or another sovereign. The alien, whilst domiciled in the country, owes a local and temporary allegiance, which continues during the period of his residence.
This obligation of temporary allegiance by an alien resident in a friendly country is everywhere recognized by publicists and statesmen. In the case of Thrasher, a citizen of the United States resident in Cuba, who complained of injuries suffered from the government of that island, Mr. Webster, then Secretary of State, made, in 1851, a report to the President in answer to a resolution of the House of Representatives, in which he said: ‘Every foreigner born residing in a country owes to that country allegiance and obedience to its laws so long as he remains in it, as a duty upon him by the mere fact of his residence, and that temporary protection which he enjoys, and is as much bound to obey its laws as native subjects or citizens. This is the universal understanding in all civilized states, and nowhere a more established doctrine than in this country.’ And again: ‘Independently of a residence with intention to continue such residence; independently of any domiciliation; independently of the taking of any oath of allegiance or of renouncing any former allegiance, it is well known that, by the public law, an alien or a stranger born, for so long a time as he continues within the dominions of a foreign government, owes obedience to the laws of that government, and may be punished for treason or other crimes as a native-born subject might be, unless his case is varied by some treaty stipulation.’
The same doctrine is stated in Hale’s Pleas of the Crown,9 East’s Crown Law,10 and Foster’s Discourse upon High Treason,11 all of which are treatises of approved merit.
Such being the established doctrine, the claimants here were amenable to the laws of the United States prescribing punishment for treason and for giving aid and comfort to the rebellion. They were, as domiciled aliens in the country prior to the rebellion, under the obligation of fidelity and obedience to the government of the United States. They subsequently took their lot with the insurgents, and would be subject like them to punishment under the laws they violated but for the proclamation of the President of December 25th, 1868. That proclamation, in its comprehensive terms, includes them and all others in like situation. It grants ‘unconditionally, and without reservation, to all and to every person who, directly or indirectly, participated in the late insurrection or rebellion, a full pardon and amnesty for the offence of treason against the United States, or of adhering to their enemies during the late civil war, with restoration of all rights, privileges, and immunities under the Constitution and the laws which have been made in pursuance thereof.’
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Citing a case that happened in the United States doesn’t prove a hing. The jest of that case is an alien that is domiciled within the country owes a temporary allegiance during the period of his residency. It’s doubtful that you’ll find anything like this in Kenyan law and you aren’t nor were you ever domiciled in Kenya. You have never even proven that you set foot on the continent of Africa.
Lucas,
Interesting!
OK — That legal loophole might help to justify the ‘allegiance’ (temporary) requirement for the Treason charge by the Kenyan authorities, since you actually were in residence in Kenya temporarily, while obtaining Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate from the CPGH in Mombasa.
However — How could the Kenyan authorities ever hope to justify ANY of the following VERY IMPORTANT REQUIREMENTS listed in the Kenyan Penal Code for issuing against you, the charge of Treason?
It’s hard to believe you’re so gullible, Bruce. The Kenyan authorities were contacted and they don’t know who Lucas is nor is he wanted in Kenya. He’s never been to Kenya. If he had been to Kenya, he would gladly post a scan of his immunization records since he could not enter the country without first showing proof that he had been immunized against specific diseases. But he doesn’t have any proof of this since he never went to Kenya.
Lucas hasn’t even shown proof that he’s being extradited. But as long as Bruce’s wallet is open, it doesn’t matter.
ON THE OTHER HAND:
The current report gives one encouragement that ‘Barack (born in Kenya) Hussein Obama II’ may someday be tried for TREASON, even if HE IS NOT A ‘U.S. CITIZEN’, which may be the case.
The following is a quote regarding Treason from the U.S. Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 115:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
There has been some discussion since Obama’s usurpation of the office of POTUS by use of the 2008 election, as to whether he could actually be tried for Treason if he was not a U.S. citizen. The current report indicates that Obama likely could indeed be tried for that crime, since he has been domiciled in the U.S.A. for many years and thus owes ‘allegiance’, even if only the ‘temporary’ variety.
Obama’s supporters may claim that he was elected twice, both in 2008 and 2012, and thus is not a usurper. However, a hypothetical Barack (CLAIMED: U.S. citizen born in Hawaii) Hussein Obama II was the individual who the people chose to elect — NOT the lying occupant of the office, Barack (ACTUAL: possible illegal alien, definitely born in Kenya) Hussein Obama II. BIG DIFFERENCE.
So, Bruce, there are two Baracks? Are you that nuts?
Trying to decide who is nuttier, LDS or Cody Robert Judy.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
The adults here have decided who the RACIST sympathizer here is and it’s you Andy!
I think the main difference between LDS and CRJ, is that unlike Judy, Smith found a rube with an open wallet.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Andy, is the concern for how other people spend their money common with RACIST sympathizers like you?
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Andy, if Bruce were a female would the RACIST in you still call him a rube or perhaps you would opt to call him a ” mud sharking slut” as you called Stanley Ann?
Honestly, I’m surprised the other birthers aren’t beating a path to LDS’s door. I’m pretty sure Zullo is gonna need some new rubes soon enough, seeing as the narrative that he lovingly crafted with the help of Carl Gallups is falling apart, even the loons at Birther Report are starting to rebuke it.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Hey RACIST, how about going to BR and posting your moronic opinions there. Perhaps your afraid of the likes of Falcon.
BTW, I mentioned you in one of my comments at BR recently. Can you guess what it was in reference to? Can you RACIST?
Looks like some of the long time birthers are starting to throw in the towel. Dr. Kate of “Dr. Kate’s View” has some hard to follow rants, but if the message she posted last, as well the reaction from her usual readers, is anything to go by, she’s seen the writing on the wall, and leaving her blog in a state of arrested decay. I bet it has something to do with that Gallups debacle.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Hey RACIST Andy, if Dr. Kate had intercourse with a negro, what would you and your RACIST associates call her? Perhaps a mud sharking slut like Stanley Ann has been called by you and your butt buddies.
Birther Report is in pretty sorry shape too. Since Gallups decided to give the birthers a good slapping around, they’ve pinned their hopes on…Donald Trump!
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Hey Andy boy, how about going over to the BR and posting some of your idiotic comments over there. Don’t let your fear of Falcon stop you. I sure would like to take a swipe at you for being a RACIST in obot disguise.
I haven’t given much thought to it before, but one has to wonder just how birthers will feel if, Rubio or Cruz ends up the front-runner for the Republican 2016 ticket. Because if they truly believe their own bullshit, then they’ll cry foul, and raise just as much stink over that, as they did with Obama. But I imagine many of them will take the Free Republic route.
Free Republic used to be a big time birther site. Most of what they ran were articles about how they thought Obama wasn’t eligible, etc, etc. Until the guy who runs FR decided that he really likes the idea of Ted Cruz as a presidential candidate. Since he couldn’t practice what he preached, he denounced birtherism, and all talk of Obama’s eligibility was banned. Some still slips through, but it is heavily frowned on! He runs lots of “This is why Obama is a terrible president!” articles, but that’s par for the course on a Conservative website. Nothing deranged about that.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
But it is deranged to exhibit the RACIST sympathies that you harbor Andy boy.
WND POSTS MAJOR COMPILATION OF REFERENCES TO OBAMA’S BIRTH IN KENYA
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Ben Carson to Obama: Come clean on ‘secret’ past
President must ‘expose everything’ by releasing records
WND
Bob Unruh
5/30/2014
Excerpt:
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‘Born in Kenya’
WND reported in 2012 numerous references to Obama being born in Kenya, including by his own publicist.
Obama’s then-literary agency billed him as “born in Kenya” starting in 1991 in connection with a book Obama never wrote. WND reported that similar references came as recently as seven years ago to promote his highly touted book “Dreams from My Father.”
As WND reported at the time, Breitbart News found a brochure from two decades ago in which literary agency Acton & Dystel promoted Obama as the author of the never-produced “Journeys in Black and White,” declaring Obama was “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
Twelve years later, however, the Dystel of Acton & Dystel was busy promoting Obama’s new book, “Dreams from My Father,” and still touting the author as “born in Kenya.”
Through the Internet archive Wayback Machine, WND found an August 2003 listing of Dystel & Goderich’s author bios, including the following: “Barack Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago. His first book is ‘Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
Even if the original 1991 brochure’s listing of Kenya as Obama’s birthplace was in error, as the agency has since claimed, it apparently was an error Obama allowed his publicist to persist in for over a decade, right until after he was running for president.
In April 2007, two months after Obama had launched his presidential bid, Dystel was still touting the then-Democratic senator from Illinois as “born in Kenya.”
Another trip through the Internet’s Wayback Machine shows Dystel & Goderich describing Obama this way: “Barack Obama is the junior Democratic senator from Illinois and was the dynamic keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He was also the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. His first book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE, has been a long time New York Times bestseller.”
Only a few weeks later, the Internet archive reveals, the publicist had changed Obama’s birthplace to Hawaii.
The text of Obama’s biography in the brochure Breitbart reported, created by Acton & Dystel in 1991, states: “Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.”
Breitbart News published a disclaimer at the beginning of its report stating its late founder, Andrew Breitbart, was never a “Birther,” and Breitbart News “has never advocated the narrative of ‘Birtherism.’” Breitbart himself once characterized Obama’s eligibility as “not a winning issue.”
Yet the biographies are just a few of numerous published reports – as well as personal claims – that Obama was born abroad, including the testimony of a Chicago-area postal worker who claims he was told by the parents of Bill Ayers that Obama was a foreigner.
Allen Hulton, a retired Chicago-area mailman, has come forward with his first-person recollection of a clean-cut young man he identified as Obama who approached him and told him he was going to be president.
Hulton delivered mail to Tom and Mary Ayers in a Chicago suburb in the late 1980s and early 1990s and claims to have met Obama in front of the Ayers home.
He has given a sworn affidavit to investigators commissioned by Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio to determine whether Obama is eligible for Arizona’s 2012 election ballot. Hulton has recorded about three hours of video interviews with WND.
Hulton says that in conversations with Mary Ayers while on his route he learned of the couple’s enthusiasm and support for a black foreign student. One bright, warm Chicagoland day, he recounts, he met the student who fit Mary Ayers’ description in front of the Ayers home in Glen Ellyn, Ill. That young man, Hulton is convinced, was Barack Obama.
Hulton delivered mail to the Ayers, who are both deceased, when he was stationed at the post office in Glen Ellyn, an upper-middle class suburb 25 miles west of downtown Chicago, from late 1986 to 1997. He was a Postal Service employee from March 28, 1962, through March 30, 2001.
As WND reported, Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers – whom he dismissed in a 2008 debate as “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood” – plagued him in the 2008 presidential campaign.
Young Obama
Over a period of years in the late 1980s and early 1990s, Hulton estimates he spoke with Mary Ayers about 18 to 20 times and once to Tom Ayers, who died in 2007. Mary Ayers died in 2000.
“Sometimes Mary would be out when I delivered the mail, and we would exchange a few words on occasion,” he says, recalling that she liked to talk about her family.
“One day, Mary came to the door when I came up to the house with the mail,” he remembers. “After a greeting, she started enthusiastically talking to me about this young black student they were helping out, and she referred to him as a foreign student.”
Hulton assumed that by “helping” the student, Mary Ayers meant she and her husband were financially supporting the black foreign-exchange student with his education.
He says that Mary Ayers told him the student’s name, but that it was a “strange name” that he could not remember, even though at the time it sounded African to him.
“I was taken aback by how enthusiastic she was about him,” Hulton says. “And I believe she said he was from either Kenya or Indonesia, and I favor Indonesia in my recollection.”
WND has reported that when Obama was in Indonesia with his Indonesian stepfather and his mother from ages 6 to 10, he was registered in school as an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim. He went by the name Barry Soetoro, adopting the surname of his Indonesian stepfather. His mother’s passport listed him with the name Soebarkah.
There also was an internal bulletin from the Kenyan National Security Intelligence Service, or NSIS, that states that the Kenyan government in 2009 commissioned a cultural museum in the Obama home village of Kogelo to honor the “birthplace of President Barack Obama” and rededicate the tomb of his father, Barack Obama Sr.
The 2009 NSIS bulletin report said:
According to an article in the Kenyan Daily Nation newspaper July 5, 2010, the Kenyan government’s plan to build a 112 million Kenyan Schilling ($1.3 million) cultural center at Kogelo was locked in a dispute over who should donate land to the government for the project.
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Lucas we need to learn more about your EXTRADITION case. Anything new to show us besides 19th century legal bore about salpetre ? Again you’re on a tangent, you seem to enjoy doing so.
Did you record the last hearing ?
are there any transcripts ?
can you provide us with specific (not tangent) links to your case ?
the Judge’s name ?
kenyan officers attending ?
public prosecutor ?
really there isn’t anything to show us ?
So why not keep it private in the first place ?
what are you after Mr.Smith Lucas Daniel ?
@ Larry Bland:
why do you only post about others Lucaserrrrr Larry ?
ramboikelikeslittleboys wrote:
I dunno. I think my revelation about him being like one of Pavlov’s dogs, uncontrollably replying to anything I post with his usual ctrl+v, really took the wind out of his sails.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Nothing you can do can take the wind out of the sails of me exposing you as the RACIST sympathizer disguised as an obot that you are, NOTHING hypocrite nothing!
And just like Pavlov’s dog, Larry heard the bell and came running. I have him conditioned so well.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Salivating like a mad dog to expose a PROVEN RACIST sympathizer. Don’t try to come off as quick witted Andy because you are far from it. One only needs to hold their breath and peruse Docs site to see that you are as childish there as you are here.
I actually like this, because it instantly invalidates any counterargument he might have. Nobody ever listens to a guy screaming “racist” at the top if his lungs, no more than they do an idiot who types in all caps. Their posts are written off as the work of some kook. I can say anything I want here, and all Larry can respond with is the same old thing. Whipped him without having to try.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Andy boy, you have no argument here, I have proven that you sympathize with RACISTS. I have put you on notice that when you post anywhere that I post I intend to expose you as the RACIST sympathizer you are. Get use to it little fellow!
As we all know, next to invoking Godwin’s law, and starting a post with “I heard on Facebook/Before its news that…” the fastest way to discredit yourself in any internet venue, is of course crying “racist”. So when you get someone who repeatedly spams cries of racism, on reflex no less, no one will believe them.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Andy boy, amazing what crap you will try to peddle here to try and keep your RACIST leanings hidden. Sort of like when you profess to be an anti birther obot. You are a sad little fella in a game that you do not have the intellect to compete in. You do however have the same option that ehancock and voice of reason decided to take. Do something nice for yourself and exercise that option.
ramboikelikeslittleboys wrote:
You know, I thought about that. But I don’t think Larry is a sock puppet, not of Lucas’s anyway.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
You know what you need to think about Andy boy, coming to terms with your RACIST sympathies. Own up to them and much like Doc bring them under control. Imagine how much better you would feel if you just released all that RACIST hatred by admitting to it here at Mr. Smiths site. For once in your insignificant life be a MAN and fess up Andy boy!
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Andy boy, you will come to fear me more than you fear Falcon or Rambo Ike together. Recall if you will that I was the one to unmask your RACIST sympathies. There is nothing lower than a coward RACIST of which you Andy boy are one.
What pisses Larry off the most though, is that I won’t address him directly, he’s beneath me.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
You CAN’T address anything Andy boy. I proved that you are a RACIST sympathizer. There is no addressing that, no defending that, no justifying that. The only manly thing that you can do is admit it, apoligize and try to change your ways.
@ ramboikelikeslittleboys:
So PattyDaPerv & his Down Lowers want to play? Patty’s poem:
Patty Waddy Punk-ins eating insect pie,
Ogled Kiddie-Porn while rubbed his thigh;
Patty’s favorite is Barney to view,
Drools himself over Dragon Tails too.
Andrew Vrba, PmG is alot like many of the Obot I’ve engaged. They believe in separate standards for political office based on race.
I have had to refrain from posting here due to important and very secret happenings recently. My inquiry about helping Kenya in the extradition efforts is paying dividends already. The Kenyan authorities were very interested when I sent them the link to this blog. I can’t say that this resulted in the additional charges but I can’t rule it out either.
They informed me that Lucas’ claim the extradition is about bribery is a complete deception. This is all about forgery of official Kenyan documents even though it was done in a crude and amateurish way.
Stay tuned. I guarantee the news will be universe shattering.
IForged NancyOwensBirthCertificate wrote:
Hey now, I’m on to you! It can’t be “universe shattering”, because there isn’t a paypal button!
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Another failed attempt at humor by this sites resident RACIST sympathizer.
@ IForged NancyOwensBirthCertificate:
Also, you forgot to give a vague release date, that you can keep pushing back indefinitely.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Strike two, another failed attempt at humor by this sites resident RACIST sympathizer. Try again Andy boy!
@ Larry Bland:
Can you actually make a comment?
@ Rambo Ike:
Who believes that?
Why bring race into this Rambo?
@ BobJ:
I sure hope that you are not contemplating defending the proven racist sympathizer disguised as an anti birther obot Andrew Vrba. My comments here are designed to constantly remind Andy about his hypocrisy.
BobJ wrote:
He cannot. Screaming “racist!” is all he’s got left. I asked him, several times to prove his accusations, but he never could. At one point I proved that a birther was the one who started the “mudsharking slut” thing. Bland didn’t like that, so he stated screaming “racist” even louder. I eventually stopped replying to him directly. Most of the time my post are merely to annoy him, and it works. Every. Single. Time. I could necro a threat from two years ago, right now if I wanted to, and Larry would uncontrollably HAVE to reply to me.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Andy boy, I conclusively PROVED that you are a RACIST sympathizer. You have never denied it, ever. You persist on continuing the charade of your anti birther, obot, position when if fact you are a RACIST sympathizer. You come at Bob with your delusional fantasies in an attempt to win an ally. Bob seems like a reasonable sort and will tend to step away from anything that might cast the disgrace of racism upon him. Recall if you will when Rambo Ike called you out for your bigotry on another board. You have been exposed Andy boy on two different boards by two different people. Deal with the sting of it and be prepared to be reminded of it frequently.
As you can see, Larry is a very sore loser about it.
@ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
Loser? Your the outed RACIST sympathizer Andy boy and yet in your child like mind I’m the loser? Amazing simply amazing!