It appears that Rueters obtained the above ‘handout photo’ from the Romney campaign on or about May 29, 2012. My thoughts are as follows:
1. When did a ‘handout photo’ become an official birth record? How is this any better than the image of the Obama short form (and also the Obama long form) birth record?
2. Why is the bottom portion of the document missing? The Obama short form at least purported to display the entire document.
3. At last, the moment I have been waiting for, I can smack (virtually, not physically) the teeth out of 1000s of birther mouths for their vehement high-pitched shout and shrieks of ‘COLB‘s and ‘Certification of Live Birth‘s and ‘Certificate of Live Birth‘s. The acronym COLB can be used for either document yet I had to listen for years about how birthers (or at least many of them) would not accept a stinking COLB and that they demand a Certificate of Live Birth.
From the outset of keeping birth records states, counties and municipalities have applied a plethora of different terminologies to birth records. Moreover, terminologies have changed and sometimes have differed within the same state and other issuing agencies within the state, city or municipality. Romney’s team appears to have released a photo handout of what is ostensibly his Certificate of Live Birth and so it appears that in Michigan this is their terminology for a short birth record (and possibly the same terminology is used for the long form in Michigan). Perhaps, conceivably, one of the reasons, though by no means limited to, that Romney’s Certificate of Live Birth gets a free pass from a soaring number of birthers is because it doesn’t say Certification (yet its clearly a short form and what I call an abstract).
4. Whats up with the the thin crust data on Romeny’s ‘handout photo’ short form birth paper? Father’s birth place is listed as Mexico? That’s all we get on this glorious and masterful handout photo birth paper? Where in Mexico might have been a pleasant touch but probably just way too much of a reasonable demand for a handout photo birth paper.
5. Mom was born in Utah but forget about any reference whatsoever to where in Utah mom was born. Some place in Utah I suppose.
6. Where is the magnificent and majestic embossed seal? Or are those two small seals in the top corners of the birth paper raised (embossed) as they are on many of the new birth records such as they are in Iowa and if so do those small raised corner seals suffice as an embossed seal when those seals are part of the document before any birth-bio-data added to the document?
I’ve never been a big fan of Vattel and I’m not so sure that one needs to have two US citizen parents (as opposed to at least one) to be a Natural Born Citizen. However, I’ve listened to the Vattel bickering and vehement exchanges (to the point where I want to spew or at very least dry heave) from fellow birther’s for years now and I’m now wondering why many (though not all) fellow birthers are not hitting the books and pulling all-nighters to learn more intrinsic details and circumstances regarding Romney’s father’s birth, and citizenship issues, in Mexico.
I’ve heard, and read, all sorts of never ending talk (including what appears to be 1984 doublethink) regarding all sorts of esoteric US, British and French statutes, enactments of a legislative authority that governs a state city or county, and all the acts, statutes, policies and regulations with regard to Americans being born overseas and their parent and or parents and also foreigners born within the US and their foreign parent or parents. YET ALL OF THE SUDDEN NEARLY EVERY (though not all) BIRTHER, and overnight at that, KNOWS ALL THERE IS AND EVER WAS TO KNOW ABOUT BEING BORN IN MEXICO and white Romney gets a free NBC pass.
I think Romney’s father was born in 1907 (and in Mexico). I, and you neither, understand or are aware of all statutes, enactments of a legislative authority that governs a state city or county, and all the acts, policies and regulations in effect at the time in the US (which could also differ within the US itself at that time) and also in Mexico (which could also differ within Mexico itself at the time).
Furthermore we need to resolutely take into account that Romney’s father (and the rest Romney’s people) was a Morman which further complicates and the scenario. For example there was the The Edmunds Act (also known as the Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act of 1882) which stripped Morman’s of many of their civil rights. This is merely an example and Romney defenders need not email with long, or short, emails to the effect that the Edmunds Act is irrelevant to passing citizenship from father/mother to son/daughter. Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t but the point is that there’s a lot of data out there and I, nor you, have had the time to put on our gumshoe and track it all down and subsequently digest it.
Many readers may have been aware of the Edmonds Acts before you read this report but I’m sure that some of you weren’t. Just imagine what else we (myself included) are not yet aware of at this point.
Its also a plausible and realistic possibility that Romney’s parents lost US citizenship (which doesn’t necessarily imply that wanted or opted to lose it) at some point during their lengthy habitation in Mexico. Theres also a remote and distant possibility that Romney’s father never was a US citizen.
I’m not at all, by no means whatsoever, prepared to issue a finding of facts on the subject of Romney and his NBC status but will close this particular installment with these thoughts:
1. I’m not, and never have been, a fan of Vattel but I plan to apply the Vattel test to Romney now that many birthers (and many of which I am now leaning towards labeling as racists) have ranted and gone all Cujo (i.e., the dog written of by Stephen King) about for years now when attempting to oust de facto president (i.e., born in Kenya) Barack Obama from Office of President of the United States of America.
2. I don’t go to church and I don’t need to be saved by the blood so if you have my telephone number, 319-804-0440, and you call me wanting to talk (that’s what most of it is because aside from a few friends/patriots like Bruce Steadman, Phyllis Vrettos, Carl Tapp, John Chamberlain, and a couple others that is all that it is, big and sometimes crazy talk and no action) about Obama and Kenyan birth certificates don’t try and get all buggy on me attempting to stick your blood of the lamb down my throat. I may be, perhaps, possibly, what I have personally coined as a protestant christian by culture but I am certainly not in the religious sense. For the record I lived (literally) at two christian schools for a period of time when I was a boy and those schools were ‘Agape’ and also ‘Lighthouse Academy’ (both of which have went by other names and have changed names).
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I notice that there is no ink footprint on this “birth certificate”.
No footprint means it’s a forgery.
I think it is natural and understandable for people, now in June 2012, to exhibit a much higher level of concern regarding the series of birth documents released by BHO-II since 2008, and regarding his POTUS ineligibility, as opposed to the recently released Romney BC, regardless of its deficiencies. This is not ‘birther racism’ but simply common sense.
At work here, at least for most people I think, are the established psychological principles involving ‘adaptive behavior’ and ‘response strength’. The thinking people of the USA have now been conditioned to react IMMEDIATELY, SUPER CRITICALLY and STRONGLY to ANYTHING Obama says or does, and FOR GOOD REASON!
I became very concerned about Obama as a potential U.S. President after reading Jerome Corsi’s excellent book ‘The Obama Nation’ in the summer of 2008. However, the book’s index does not even list the terms, ‘eligibility’ or ‘natural born citizen’. I didn’t become aware of the serious problems involved with Obama’s ineligibility nor did I become an active ‘birther’ until I viewed the ‘Lucas Daniel Smith, Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate’ in the early summer of 2009.
I immediately knew then that we had a very serious problem on our hands with Obama. However, I had no idea that the matter would still be uncorrected and impacting the nation after the elapse of 3 full years! Tragic!
I won’t attempt to list Obama’s numerous, serious character and political problems. Most readers of this blog are well aware of these. His being born ‘half black’ has absolutely nothing to do with my own objections to the man. I suspect this also holds true for the vast majority of people who are SERIOUSLY INVOLVED with the eligibility issue.
The lying, Marxist ‘fraud and enemy combatant’ illegally occupying the White House has been identified and we are now in full ‘protection mode’ both for ourselves and for our country! The human species would not have successfully evolved to our current advanced level without the ability of large numbers of us to adaptively perform in this manner.
(To get an idea on where we may be evolving to from here, unfortunately, I refer readers to the 2006 movie, Idiocracy. – http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/idiocracy/ )
The birth documents Obama reluctantly released in various different iterations ONLY AFTER GREAT and SUSTAINED PRESSURE during the last 3+ years have all been PROVEN to be fraudulent. The responsible officials in Hawaii, especially those in positions of authority at the Department of Health, have likewise performed repeatedly in an evasive and fraudulent manner. Sheriff Arpaio has identified and spoken of potential fraudulent activities involved with Obama’s LFBC, Selective Service Form, and Social Security Number.
On the other hand, CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret) has posted the below-linked “Ancestry – Mitt Romney (natural born Citizen)” document:
I have no reason to doubt CDR Kerchner’s carefully researched opinion regarding Romney’s POTUS eligibility at this point. Therefore, I don’t intend to spend a lot of time personally trying to find fault with his opinion. However, if someone makes a reasonable and fact-based case that Romney is NOT eligible, I will certainly reconsider the matter and get actively involved. My adaptive behavior’ and ‘response strength’ mechanisms will kick in against Romney, just as they did back in the early summer of 2009 against Obama!
I hope Romney will also soon release an informative HOSPITAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, but I doubt that this will be done. I just hope the ‘skunk’ doesn’t try to run with the ineligible Marco Rubio as VP!
TL;DR
your analysis leads to an astonishing birth in Kenya for Mr.Romney as well (whomever this chap Romney, that you often name in your article, is). Birth in Kenya seemingly amounts to a serious obstacle to aspire to the throne of the Unites States. Kenya could get offended
@ Bruce:
STEADY MAN , I LOCATED AN email ADDRESS FOR THE CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS OF MITT ROMNEY AND WROTE A TERSE MESSAGE
ABOUT THE SPECULATION REGARDING HIS CHOICE OF A RUNNING
MATE FOR VICE PRESIDENT . MAKAHAYAN TOLD HIM IN NO UNCERTAIN
LANGUAGE THAT MARCO RUBIO AND BOBBY JINDAL ARE INELIGIBLE
FOR THAT OFFICE , AND THAT HE SHOULD NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT
CHOOSING EITHER OF THEM . INCLUDED IN THE MESSAGE IS A REPORT
OF THE CHALLENGES IN ALL 50 STATES AGAINST ANOTHER INELIGIBLE
CANDIDATE – OBAMA . THE MESSAGE GOES ON TO WARN THAT
” WE THE PEOPLE ” WOULD FILE THE SAME CHALLENGES AND LAWSUITS IF RUBIO OR JINDAL WERE CONSIDERED .
THE ENTIRE MESSAGE WAS ALSO FORWARDED TO MORE THAN 260
OF MY SOURCES OF INFORMATION , WHICH INCLUDE THE OFFICE OF MARCO RUBIO .
obamais an illeagle alain born in africa,he [will be xposed in this charade
@ charles h brown:
Yes, you are obviously illegal too. Learn English.